Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20150111211426/@comment-1037137-20150126023919

It's an excellent premise with excellent characters overall being badly wasted by some extraordinary mishandling and misunderstanding of the original idea and of why it gained such a large fandom in the first place. Which is what makes its constantly bad writing that much more inexcusable.

That's my question, you cannot possibly pull all of this crap in three straight episodes and think that literally all of it is okay, I mean the crew is supposed to understand what the fans want and how they will respond to certain elements and how they're handled. But these are dirty twists and tricks, and uncalled for moments of unnecessary cruelty and nonsensical buildups that seriously do not feel designed with the fandom kept in mind at all. I can't bring myself to believe that this was merely an accident, not a spectacle that drew this much vitriol. I've heard that poor communication in the writing room may have contributed to these problems, but common sense should've still been present in saying that what they were doing might prove unproductive and may not do the fans any favors.

God, that is too biased. Gotta remain neutral in addressing this sort of thing over there. I just feel angry every time I dwell on any of these three episodes, and TVTropes has mentioned in many pages and places that they are utterly despised by many for many good reasons. There's no disputing how badly received they were, even with their defenders. And perhaps Thomas was right, I mean none of those elements in that finale were fanservice to anybody aside from the obvious exception. Everything about how that finale unfolded and ended is everything you should NEVER do in a season finale, and it was an episode that clearly did not have the best intentions in mind anywhere in the script. It is so frequently cited as one of the worst episodes, if not the worst period. The Zoke fans I've seen who actually like this episode rarely acknowledge the events of the rest of the episode where their two favorite lovebirds weren't kissing away or where Mal wasn't farting about onscreen pretending to be the menace he wasn't. And if they do, they sadly have defended the entire episode from what I have thus far witnessed. Which naturally, I just find incredulous. How does one stupid kissing scene excuse everything else? I would think that it wouldn't, even if most of them are kids. I'm so disillusioned with Zoke.

What do you mean?

True, but at least Half-Blood Prince was still a good movie, all of them were. All-Stars didn't even try to be good, and anyone who was trying had their work vastly overshadowed by the obviously uncaring attitude invested into this Obvious Beta.

Awesome man, you'd know what to say and how to go about it. Chances are you'll have a good chance of at least being heard out.

I found it cringeworthy from the beginning. Initially I was glad that the season was treating it like Duncney was finally dead, but again that was overshadowed quickly and Scourtney was a pathetic attempt to fill its shoes. I don't think any common sense was used in cooking that up either. And frankly, I'm fed up with Courtney getting paired up with every bad boy, this romantic BS is getting tired. With her and with Gwen, etc.

Hell, you can argue that it was too much focus on romance that killed this season, for crying out loud. Zoke was almost considered the death of the series before TDPI aired. As they say on TVTropes, "Nice Job Breaking It, Heroes".

Well good riddance, people like that have no place here or on any other wikia. I'm sorry you guys had to put up with that crap, glad I missed all the drama. I'd never know it ever happened seeing how every trace of him was erased by the time I got back.