Forum:Removal of Council Vote

Hey everyone. Recently, there have been many complaints by several users about the state of our wiki under council and our wiki being a dictatorship. I personally believe that many problems on this wiki would be solved by the removal of Council, and giving more people on the wiki a say. I also believe that this would help to solve the appearance that our wiki is a "dictatorship" by the other wikis and even some of our past users. I know that many other wikis use this system, and they find it very effective. If other wikis can deal without a council, why can't we? With the growing number of people joining our wiki and IRC, I feel we need a more open, democratic government, which will occur if the removal of council occurs. I have many ideas as of what to do for possible promotions and demotions, such as following this plan, which many users already have seems to like. If this plan doesn't get passed, I still believe we need major revamping of the rules and government. Thank you for your time and please note, this is the OFFICIAL vote page. ~ RPs & Writes!  ♪   Dakota    ♫  Talks & Edits!''' 19:49, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) I fully support this idea, as I submitted it. :P ~ RPs & Writes!  ♪   Dakota    ♫  Talks & Edits!  19:49, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Completely agreed.  TDA15  talks and  edits 19:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) I agree with this, and also the whole "Lets vote in council" thing is bad!---zzzzzz OH WHAT? You want to talk to me? What ever... (Diary of a Wimpy Kid Wiki ADMIN) 19:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Mhm, agreed with Dakota. -- Owenandheatherfan  Is  [[File:La.gif]]  For Coco!  19:58, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) No longer needed. Council used to be needed, now it is obsolete. -- Nalyd Renrut - Legendary Snipe!  Master of epic pwnage 20:00, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) I agree with Dakota. Sorry peeps from council, but I think it's way too controversial. Unless we start allowing users in, I'm going to support this. 20:00, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Agreed with above. -- Spotted at the hottest shows, interview on Charlie Rose,  they all want a piece of you!  20:10, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) ^ Cause baby you're a firework Really you are Oh, no... 20:17, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) I feel that this wiki will be better off without the council. GG (talk) 21:02, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) I agree with GG. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me! ) 21:02, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I do not believe it's needed to remove council. It's a privelege to get to vote/discuss council things, and users need to be motivated to work their way up there. Also, council kinda holds the wiki together. My two cents. Jaxswim 19:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) * is in the minority* Council can get a little crazy sometimes, but I still think it's needed in some form. I'm all for giving users more input and decision-making, but I still think there should be some form of higher government. ~ Kgman04!  ♪ Talk! ♫ Contribs! 20:32, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) It's still needed in some form, like KG said. I'm all for letting the users watch and comment on the meetings, because that's what I think should be done instead of Council ending. ~ CD-TDA   talks a nd contributes!  ♔ 20:36, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) All of the above. I was totally for removing Council when I was banned, but now I feel like all it needs is a few adjustments. Removing it altogether isn't necessary; we need some form of government, and I feel like a collaborative one is good. --TDIFan13 (My Talk andMy Contributions! )20:49, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Agreed. Council shouldn't go all together, we need some system here. -- XoTulleMorXo  ♥talk  and  contributions♥  20:51, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Youd think i would want to get rid of the thing that got me demoted, well I do believe it could be run differently, i believe that it should be open for all users, at least for all users to watch, getting rid of it all together would leave us without a system Bridgette_dj10   im winning this timeee  21:02, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) Agreed with everything above. I've supported having users watch Council for a long time, and clearly Council's going away, but whatever. I just hope the people who voted "Support" know what to do after Council's gone. <font color="#556B2F">Neko-naito <font color="#8A2BE2">"It's a fact and scientific <font color="#8A2BE2">that I'm still Nekorific!" 21:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) I don't want to see this wiki in even greater chaos than it is right now. Why don't we just make Council public, that'd make things much easier. I suggest this. If you want every single Wiki-wide vote to end up like the Freehugs Demotion page, then feel free to ignore my comment.-- <font color="MediumBlue">Mygeto <font color="RoyalBlue">likes to <font color="Red">STEAL <font color="DodgerBlue">your edits 21:14, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
Did the admins even approve of this? -- XoTulleMorXo  ♥talk  and  contributions♥  20:23, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

From what I've been told, yeah. 20:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I brought it up to council yesterday. ~ <span style="background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(aqua), to(red)); border:4px ridge #black;">RPs & Writes! ♪  <font face="Samdan">Dakota    ♫  Talks & Edits!  20:27, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's better than having Council vote on whether or not to dissolve itself, right?  TDA15  talks and  edits 20:32, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Poli, if you quit, I don't see why you're voting. I think if you're not going to come back you shouldn't impact the future of a community you don't plan to be a part of. -- Nalyd Renrut - Legendary Snipe! Master of epic pwnage 20:39, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

^ This. <font color="#600000">~ Kgman04! ♪ <font color="#A00000">Talk! ♫ <font color="#600000">Contribs! 20:48, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I agree. If you're going to continue voting in everything and trying to affect the future of the wiki, then you really didn't quit. --<font color="#ff0000">TDIFan13 (<font color="#4b0082">My Talk and<font color="#4b0082">My Contributions! )20:48, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Must have been a ragequit. -- XoTulleMorXo  ♥talk  and  contributions♥  20:50, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

^ I wouldn't be suprised if it was, it's happened quite a few times.  TDA15  talks and  edits 20:52, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

I love her and all, but if she wants no part of the community why would she care what happens to it? Bridgette_dj10 im winning this timeee  20:57, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

^ Well this was one of the main reasons Poli quit, so why shouldn't she be able to vote? -- Look, Wings!  Yes Gwen, wings are way more important than the talk you are having now.  20:58, June 18, 2011 (UTC

Because she already quit; she's making decisions that's going to impact the future of the wiki that she wants nothing to do with. If you quit, you don't want to be on the wiki anymore, so why is she here? --<font color="#ff0000">TDIFan13 (<font color="#4b0082">My Talk and<font color="#4b0082">My Contributions! )20:59, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

And people wonder how I can hate the Wiki's environment. ~ Poli ~  Count!  Watch!  Talk! 21:01, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

If you hate it so much, then why are you still here? :|  TDA15  talks and  edits 21:03, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Oddly, you're still openly participating in discussions even though you "quit". It's like you returned. When I returned, you accused me of trying to get sympathy; I wouldn't be surprised if you announced tomorrow that you're stopping your resignation. --<font color="#ff0000">TDIFan13 (<font color="#4b0082">My Talk and<font color="#4b0082">My Contributions! )21:05, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Eh. Boredom. And why do you even care? @TDA15 ~ Poli ~  Count!  Watch!  Talk! 21:07, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Same reason everyone else is questioning your alleged "quitting."  TDA15  talks and  edits 21:10, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean to start a whole conversation about it. I just wanted to know why Poli kept voting even though she quit is all. If she's actually planning to come back, that's fine. I was just curious is all. -- Nalyd Renrut - Legendary Snipe! Master of epic pwnage 21:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, then let her come back. But for someone who's allegedly "quit", she sure is around here a lot. --<font color="#ff0000">TDIFan13 (<font color="#4b0082">My Talk and<font color="#4b0082">My Contributions! )21:09, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fine, since it apparently hurts you so much that I'm here, Ryan, I'll be sure to go. The truth is, I really don't care anymore. By the way, this is an example of being an "uptight busybody." Just a thought. ~ Poli ~  Count!  Watch!  Talk! 21:12, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Again, if you don't care, why are you here? --<font color="#ff0000">TDIFan13 (<font color="#4b0082">My Talk and<font color="#4b0082">My Contributions! )21:14, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

^ I was just about to say the same thing.  TDA15  talks and  edits 21:15, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

And this is the perfect example on how most wiki-wide votes are going to turn out in the future.-- <font color="MediumBlue">Mygeto <font color="RoyalBlue">likes to <font color="Red">STEAL <font color="DodgerBlue">your edits 21:16, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Mygeto, this isn't about the vote. Besides, things like this won't happen every time.  TDA15  talks and  edits 21:19, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

^ Mhm. This is just about something else, not about the vote. -- XoTulleMorXo  ♥talk  and  contributions♥  21:22, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Still a very unnecessary argument, the kind that I see pop up often on Wiki-wide votes that concern issues like this.-- <font color="MediumBlue">Mygeto <font color="RoyalBlue">likes to <font color="Red">STEAL <font color="DodgerBlue">your edits 21:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)