Thread:Fedora Kid/@comment-2091662-20141218114510/@comment-1734566-20141231192245

Um, no. That's totally wrong. Even Jeff Probst confirmed that Russell was the first to find an idol with zero clues. And finding idols DOES mean something, otherwise they wouldn't exist. They're a part of the game, too. And nope; I watched the reunion show - he didn't cry. You're thinking of when he got booted in RI. And again - goats CAN win. Look at Sophie in South Pacific, same thing.

Winning is NOT what it's all about. As I've said before, your logic would automatically mean that Russell, Jonny FairPlay, Rob C, Cirie, Rupert, Ozzy, Coach, Amanda Kimmel, Malcolm, Rudy, Yau-Man, Troyzan, Colby, Jerri, and so many others ALL SUCK because they didn't win. That's basically what you've been arguing the entire time. You say Russell sucks because he didn't win. Then, by the transitive property using that same argument, ALL of the other players who aren't in the exclusive Lucky 27 Club also automatically suck. If the show used the same ridiculous logic that you use, then All-Stars, Fans vs. Favorites, and Heroes vs. Villains would ONLY feature former winners and flip off everyone else. If a runner in 1,000-yard dash is in the clear lead, way ahead of everyone else, for the first 900 yards or so, then they are suddenly surpassed in the last 100 and come in second to someone else who was in the back of the pack for most of the race...sure, that clear frontrunner DIDN'T win, but does that mean they suck? They still gave the most effort in the overall race and could therefore be considered the "best" player in the race. If you still refuse to see the obvious flaw in your logic, then you'll never be open-minded to any differing opinions. I've conceded to some of your points, and I've given credit where credit is due, even to winners that I don't like/think are overrated like Boston Rob and Kim. But you turn around and say that Russell literally did NOTHING, and you say he's not even responsible for Tyson's blindside in HvV. THAT is just immaturity at its worst - stop being immature and give credit where credit is due. Because again, otherwise you might as well say that Natalie A in this season was NOT responsible for Jon Misch's blindside, he was just an idiot. If you don't AT LEAST concede to this point, then I'm officially done with you and your immature debate tactics. :P