Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20150201074641/@comment-1037137-20150225195838

I swear that that is something they are too content to forget in there, it's the only way to explain all of the twists and turns that have led to the worsening backdraft across the fandom, so many of the stunts they've pulled were bound to attract backlash; you don't just take everyone's favorite characters and take such aggressive liberty with them and not expect an outrcry against it. And it really feels like they're just hyucking about amongst themselves as they're writing this show, laughing at their own nonsense without regard for what the audience is going to say. I swear that has to be true to some extent because it so often does not feel like they're servicing the fandom with genuinely compelling stories and character development, they just seem to be taking too much refuge in the script to tell their own bad jokes amongst themselves. I mean they can't have been too serious about their work if so many unfortunate implications and enormous character inconsistencies keep getting by, All-Stars being obviously the most prominent case of this. And the biases seen in favor of or against the characters, depending on which one you're talking about is frustratingly blatant, and cannot be tolerated from a professional environment as theirs.

True,  but this is still the most crudely handled one yet, and I don't know, it just seems stupid to me. And starving the interns doesn't help matters, how long did they go without just so they could be ripe for this challenge, and just to be denied food anyway? I don't consider the abuse funny, and the whole gag with the interns getting killed off by Chris' insane demands of them is getting less and less funny the more it's played up, especially coupled up with the constant near-death/implied death experiences of the campers as of late. I think the intern gag is also wearing out its welcome. But I digress for now. The episode is abysmal and just plain sick. I agree with you, even if you don't hate it, you shouldn't defend it, because it is an ugly, hateful piece of writing with rampant biases and lack of respect for character or consistency obvioius throughout. From what I've been told from others, their hiring process may be a very haphazard one, but I don't know for sure. And I have heard the creators themselves were not happy with the work done on the episode, supposedly. But yeah, these writers, their approach makes clear that there are some fundamental issues with their handling overall. Ones that cannot be ignored and must be highlighted still to ensure some eventual restoration of quality, we're seeing a loss of control in the writing here.

All was absolutely not well when they crafted these. Booty-ful only attracts near-unanimous hatred. No priority, no passion, no imagination, no class, no intelligence.........Just pain and stupidity. I can't explain that episode either aside from possibly being intentional, because this has "We didn't give a s***" written all over it. It also ought to have been pulled, this is another episode fans are not going to stop reminding them off when it comes to the show's lowest and worst points. It deserves all the hate it gets.

It was taking it too far, it is misguided in every sense of the word. It was going to get slammed regardless of their intents and purposes, nobody was prepared for this twist and that is not a good thing, this was treating the cast like a bunch of expendables, and again leaving us in the lurch for what could be a very long time, wondering what the f*** became of them. I don't care who stands up for the joke, it was an extremely offensive abuse of a tired gag and if you gotta have Owen's fart humor, then for the love of God, don't do this. This is a freaking finale and this is how you repay everybody for watching? Especially a crowd who's patience got badly tested for nearly three months straight? And you land them with the choice between two wildly unpopular characters? There are so many things wrong with this scene, you cannot doubt the insult had to be intentional, no idiot could've possibly missed all of the things that would inevitably play against them after it was finished all through this one viciously brainless twist. And it definitely gives the fandom a lot of ammunition against the two designated heroes and "fan favorites", who this entire mess seemed to be designed to glorify. The bias is practically bleeding through the scripts now.

Not appropriate? No offense, but are they on drugs? Because no one with a clear frame of mind could cook up this kind of crap. I think it's a legit example to have added, not sure what their deal is.

I probably should, I want to be sure that the commentary I tried to offer was at least acknowledged, as I tried to explain why it doesn't work as a joke. I don't want it glanced over, so I'm thinking some reminder might be okay.

Okay, I am intending to move on to the next topic pretty soon. You know my intent is to go after SMS again, to bring forth the question as to why they just unraveled all they built up to in the last legs of the season. I'm probably gonna open it up this weekend at some point. If you want to back me up on the matter once I've gotten it started, feel free to. I am already greatly appreciative of the support you're showing already.

The episode, like previous seasons, just killed so much of what had been built up for several characters, making their stories a waste of time and sending one home out in the worst, most humiliating, and loathsome note possible. And the hurt a lot of people felt from it was real. Further evidence that you can't be screwing with everyone's love for their favorite characters, they do get angry and distressed when that happens, and in a lot of cases rarely forgive it. This is a case lots of people have yet to forgive, and they don't owe it their forgiveness. This is an unacceptable character treatment, for any character. And yes, the kids' excuse doesn't excuse sabotaging your own plots and characters, it does not excuse the lack of integrity displayed. Thanks, I intend to really spell out the insult that it was. And what an inexcusable case of "screenwriting" it is.

Personally speaking, I pretty much called the failure on this thing when it was announced a year before its debut. When I heard the kind of crap that went into the show beforehand like with the third season among other things I knew this thing didn't have much hope of actually being good. God, I wish I was wrong.

They had better not, and I really pray you are right. If anything, the Unholy Trinity and almost everything else is a perfect case of what not to do in future seasons. I can't think of simpler terms to put it in, if you want to avoid a repeat of this disaster and the backlash that followed, then don't do what All-Stars did. Better hope they don't have the nerve to test fate like that again, they're in enough hot water as it is. All-Stars is still getting roasted on every forum every day by somebody at any given time.

The classic The Reason You Suck speech. That is refreshing, but be ready for some unnerving imagery in the Titans' response to this put-down.