Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-4742462-20150327004920/@comment-4742462-20150408052939

I did comparison that because Owen in the first season is completely different to the Owen in later seasons. And... Provide toilet humor. Something I also forgot was that his tendencies to float became much more forced in his two subsequent seasons (especially Action where taking his return out honestly wouldn't have affected the season a single bit).

Barring the Flush of Shame, the lack of toilet humor prior to Episode 12 was one of the few positive things I could say about All-Stars. But just like everything else that season, they had to go and muck that up!

And yet Dave gets screwed over ten times as badly despite not being an actual antagonist, their logic of punishing a character is very questionable and messed up. I'm one of those that does consider Scarlett the main antagonist and also refusing to consider Sugar to be even a secondary one because she sucked that badly. I'm still convinced that she's also part Elimination Houdini even if she was never in the bottom 2.

Yeah, Lightning ended up being the sole exception thus far in terms of shortest run for a returning finalist. I've actually got some interesting info regarding Lightning's ranking in Revenge of the Island. PM me on TVTropes though because it's info that can't be public at the moment.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if most of the writers who came on since Action didn't know the show at all. That's understandable, and American Dad! admittedly started out as a Family Guy knockoff that happened to be by the same person (drove away from this after awhile for a few years, but has recently started to fall back into this as part of it's decline in quality within the past five years).