Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-4742462-20150327004920/@comment-4742462-20150406010143

Especially since he'd rather be clingy than actually being with the woman that makes him that way... I don't think Steve's unlikability is intentional. It's Unintentionally Unsymphatic because there are times where we're supposed to side with him, yet can't because of a bratty jackass he is.

The thing that offends me the most about Hayley being Demoted to Extra is that she was the SECOND character to be created by Seth after Stan! The Stan & Roger Show has been a more appropriate name for this series since 2010 because they've oversaturated the crap out of those two to the point where the show would be better off if they were written out/killed off. Surprisingly, Hayley so far has actually had more episodes focused on her in the main plot than Stan (which I don't mind as he's been derailed into a complete Peter Griffin Expy).

One of the DVD commentaries mentions that the #1 rule for the writers is that Stan must never be unlikable... They're obviously deluded as I can list a hundred examples where he was unlikable. 100% Designated Hero/Unintentionally Unsymphatic.

Both shows pretty much declined for the same reason: Most of the original crew jumping ship leading to a bunch of newbies that take their place and very likely pulling an Ed (most of the original writers for American Dad! were gone by the end of Season 8).