Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20150111211426/@comment-1037137-20150129084210

Glad to hear it :) Hope everybody your way had a blast.

Exactly, I don't see how or why anyone would defend this, absolutely nothing about it is done right, even Zoke fans ought to be a bit more outraged at how the handling of their main ship has made theirs the most mocked and villified element of the series between ROTI and TDAS, I mean their favorite characters were also made to look beyond redeemable. I don't understand how anyone could think this is something to defend or that it has any creative merit to it at all, let alone how the crew themselves let out such a dysfunctional, cynical exercise in bad screenwriting. Total Drama should not have survived such a disaster, it barely did, and without TDPI perhaps it would have even less traction than it still has now. But we're a stubborn and proud fandom, if a very divided and argumentative one. And because this show is a good idea, we naturally demand a stronger, better execution. And seeing how we're the people they're making this show for, they'd best not try their luck any further in the future. Or we will be speaking up again, we are a vocal fanbase.

And even at that, an atrociously executed love letter to Zoke. Why would anybody in there believe that that was all it would take to make the fandom happy when Zoke was already polarizing after ROTI? No way they didn't misread us given that fact, Zoke was unpopular back then. And everyone who was screwed over? Almost all of them were infinitely more popular than those two. More a smack in the face than anything else. I fully agree with you there, because now the characters rarely ever leave with any dignity, and TDAS' exits, this one in particular may be the most crass, indignant, and unfunny exits of the entire series. This one especially just makes me sick, it pains me that they actually crossed that line and sent eveything crashing down in flames all over again with this one character. No excuse for an episode designed like that, and Ed MacDonald hasn't any excuse for it, nor the people who were supposed to be staying on top of him and the rest of the team, on top of the direction their creation was taking. I do sincerely hope his involvement on the show is over. I see Booty-ful is your venom just like Sundae and Wreck-ening are for me. And it is like the others a venomous and braindead episode that has no business or point in existing. Like I said, I've only ever met one person who actually defended it. Like Sundae for Courtney, Booty-ful was the virtual death of the Gwen we knew and used to love. She was already on a downward slope, this was practically the finishing blow. And now she's justly unpopular among fans lately. She's a freaking laughingstock among older fans, right up there with Zoey and Mike now. Surely Fresh has not heard the end of that either. Absolutely man, you really hit the nail on the head with everything you said. I'm with you in that I won't accept a defense of those episodes. And yes, this episode? Almost as bad as that, almost as bad as racism, because it spreads false impressions to younger viewers.

Perhaps. But criticism is a necessary deterrent to repeats of the load of crap that necessitates our commentary and other sessions like it. Maybe we are being too harsh, but I personally can't help but feel that we're just spelling out the truth of what this thing was in its fullest form.

That was a pretty decent episode, but things rapidly fell apart immediately afterward, yes. I don't know what happened, but there's NO way anybody was trying to put together anything decent or even respectful or mindful of the fans beyond that point. No one who actually cared about what people were thinking as they followed along would think that anything beyond that point was acceptable to air on TV. The trinity is  testament to their callous approach to this decaying series, and the attitude that lead to this decay.

I'd love to know, thanks for keeping me in the loop. :)

Remind me to do the same with Cartoon Network about allowing that whole reset button thing to air on TV, I think they need a good talking to. Perhaps Teletoon too.

Also was thinking of inquiring on why they ever allowed the Flush into the season, another insanely unfunny gag I've been wanting to say something about. What do you think? Should I try it as I've tried with Scourtney?

No reason at all, hence the main, crippling problem with the ship, she had literally no reason to be attracted to Scott, if she was writing off Duncan early on, Scott realistically should've stood no chance. Those two don't have a real chemistry, as sickly sweet as they tried to play up the damned thing. And yeah, he was a faux villain in this season, hence why I think he gets too much credit among those who returned for it.

Yes, ANY pairing that starts with a guy eating crap off of another's head is NEVER going to be good news. That's just f***ing creepy. Would this have been allowed near children if he sniffed her hair while he was at it? Might as well have if they were going to go that route.

Oh yeah, Scamy's gaining a lot of ground as of late. And for good reasons for sure. Simply makes a lot more sense than this crap.

For far too long, is it too much to ask that she get a good outcome for once? Her villain status has never been truly popular to begin with, TDA anyone? Most will agree she's been written horrendously for too long and was far more enjoyable in TDI, before her bloody flanderization began. No, it's not too much to ask that she remain consistent, not to much to ask of any character, absolutely not. And nor is it too much to ask to see these guys do good for once, rather than just be treated like crap for the sake of treating them like crap, the connection fans feel to these guys is very real, why would you want to keep bumming us out like this with them? Redeeming Courtney is still an excellent idea, and they nearly had it, or so some of us thought. I'd love to know how Ed MacDonald went about f***ing that all up, why he did it, what his thinking was, what the thinking of his team was, and why they felt it was okay to violate any one of their major plots after so much focus and buildup. Somebody should've held him to the redemption she very nearly got this time around. That's an episode I swear I will NEVER forgive. No character-killing episodes of any kind deserves forgiveness.

Perhaps this script was written with the same crap Gwen fixed that painting with, wouldn't that explain so much?

Should add that, because that's exactly what that was, a Family Unfriendly Aesop for sure. So much of this easily counts as that. Yeah, no effort or forethought or consideration of any kind was invested into this project. At all. This season couldn't have been a mere accident.

Good riddance. 8-)

BTW, what's the situation on TVTropes this week?