Thread:BarBar/@comment-1734566-20150507222158/@comment-1734566-20150509054240

@Panda: Gertrude was actually the first to declare their dislike for Beyonce, yet you ultimately attack me only. K then.

@SteelWolf: First off, thanks for finally presenting some form of an argument in response to my criticisms, something that Panda here obviously has no interest in doing. But your response begs repeat of my question: You can argue for Shirin as a CHARACTER all you want, but do you, SteelWolf, actually believe that she is a good PLAYER? A good COMPETITOR? A good player of the GAME of Survivor? Yes or no?

In response to what you said, though, a few things. First off, development/depth is subjective, and to me, can be easily confused with mere exposure. One could argue that Phillip got depth/development since he lasted the entirety of RI. But I digress. I would argue that Shirin didn't really change much/develop any. Yes, she did have that epiphany moment when Hali finally told her what her problem was after Max's boot, and Shirin SEEMED to realize that she needed to change, but I'd argue she really didn't. She still maintained those ways for the most part, she just got less focus/less of an edit post-merge. And the Reds, honestly, didn't accept her because she changed, but because she was the only person who was willing to align with them post-merge. The alliance came out of necessity, not change/development. All of Shirin's "focus" is part of the clever editing team at CBS anyway - they'll show any confessional with an irrelevant backstory of domestic abuse to make her narrative seem stronger. But you want more proof of why I think she didn't change? Her role in Tyler's Ponderosa video - she was STILL as invade, obnoxious, and in love with her own voice as before, to the point where Tyler had to finally directly tell her, to her face, to shut it and let him have his moment. And this was even WORSE because this is AFTER she was informed of why she was disliked, of why she was obnoxious, yet she STILL continued to do it not with obliviousness, but with ARROGANCE in telling Tyler how to behave/think/feel. THAT, to me, is why I feel Shirin hasn't had much of an arc even though it appeared like she might, and why her overall personality is still an obnoxious one.