Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20150313055759/@comment-24152851-20150406075238

There was certainly a steady decline with most seasons, but they just did not know what the hell they were doing in TDAS. I think they got their priorities and what people actually wanted completely wrong to begin with. While there are drama lovers out there, almost no one will want it at the cost of character killing. The drama itself in TDAS wasn't top notch either, and was indeed cheap humor that only little kids might buy into. I guess it is harder for a show like Total Drama to keep up consistency, since they have such a large cast to maintain, but that's no excuse for the abysmal wreck we got. In such a case some characters might become less interesting and engaging, but completely contrasting a set personality is something else altogether.

Sometimes there are characters who are complex enough that very few can handle them other than the ones who created them to begin with. A lot of the post-TDI writers did not know what they were supposed to do with Gwen. It probably was a lot harder to give her a purpose once she had completed her development arc in TDI and had opened up. Out of all the characters they could've turned into the relationship fodder they chose the Goth girl. Gwen's fanbase was already on the downfall even before TDAS, and had gained a lot of haters due to the whole triangle debacle. I'm not sure if her character can take any more damage before she's lost altogether. If she gets screwed even further than she is now, I think even I might start giving up on her. I think TDI Gwen was all-round the most popular character in the season, rivaled only by maybe Lindsay (Heather had a lot of haters back then). Now that you brought up the sympathy thing, I remembered in the finale Gwen giving that speech where she dissed most of the cast, was actually an attempt to make her seem less sympathetic so viewers would root for Owen. I wasn't happy with a single one of Gwen's interactions with the ROTI cast, other than maybe Zoey which I was okay with. She acts like she knows every one of them even though it's the first time they've ever talked. I mean, back in TDWT when Heather tried to align with Cody, he was like "this is the third time you've ever spoken to me". But here we have Gwen become best friends with them after one freaking episode. Ikr, Gwen being used as relationship bait is so stupid. If they had to go with someone than Bridgette would've been a more reasonable choice, not that I would want her to become one, but just for the sake of comparisons. With the unsympathetic thing I take it you mean with Courtney in SMS and plonking Heather on the head in Final Wretch? Meh, I just dismiss that as part of the idiocy she received. More dull and immature rather than unsympathetic. Still it's painful to see the most strategic hero contestant be reduced to this pathetic excuse of a character. I understand, her portrayal has strained everyone's patience. I haven't seen one person who was happy with what happened to Gwen.

Ah yes, that too. That whole "Courtney didn't receive enough karma" business. I heard some people would've preferred to have Courtney as the main antagonist of TDAS. Considering it's either her or Mal I guess the choice isn't that unreasonable. Still she's had her reign as antagonist, and it was mostly poorly received. A rehash that really wasn't necessary, considering she didn't even do any major crime prior to SMS. It's so impossibly stupid to make a character do evil deeds completely out of nowhere just to justify giving them karma. I won't blame all of the other writers who tried and almost succeeded to redeem Courtney, just the one at the end who refused to cooperate. Assuming there was zero communication between the writers, I'd like to know if the writers actually checked what had happened in previous episodes. No research in previous seasons is one thing, but would it be that much trouble to look back at the script from the past few days? Courtney will always be the biggest Base Breaker character in the cast. Other characters will have love and hate grow and wane, but her base has always been very vocal and strong on both sides of the spectrum.

"This entire season should be the guidebook for what not to do with your series." Wish the writers could read this right now, for that is exactly what should be done. Hopefully we'll get some insight into what goes behind the scenes at Fresh studios in your thread. I'm astounded Terry has managed to stay below the radar for this long, but if he stuffs this up one more time I don't think he'll be so lucky.

You and me, and many many fans would've been happy if it never aired. I think I said this once before, but I would rather have a long wait for it to come out, if it meant all the sour notes could be amended and fixed. I mean, a season comes out once a year, does it honestly make that much difference to wait a month or few months longer? There should be no shortcuts when undertaking a task as major as writing a show which will potentially have millions of viewers.

More people should be like that, be willing to take action against what they believe. This probably is just the beginning, though that would largely depend on what kind of response the current thread gets. Oh no, it's certainly not just about Zoke, with the final 2 episodes there was virtually not a single thing they did right. I think the weapons rack in the final wretch was about the only thing I didn't completely despise in that episode. When I say non-canon, I just mean what happened with the characterizations. Perhaps Chris spiked their food several episodes ago and they have been OOC as a result, and that their true personalities are still in there somewhere. The events however certainly did happen. As I mentioned above, they can take as long as they needed to come up with something, so long as it was of decent quality. There was never any need, or any deadline that needed to be met, so no excuse for this rushed, unchecked, pile of gobbelty-goop we got.