Thread:BarBar/@comment-1734566-20150319025341/@comment-25194000-20150327114943

Fedora Kid wrote: South Pacific and RI really are two sides of the same coin. Redemption Island, two returning players, a cast of mostly duds except for a few (Matt and Andrea in RI, Cochran in South Pacific). I guess I like SP better because it introduced Cochran and at least BOTH returning players were important, rather than just one like in RI. Plus, it featured perhaps one of the best "stories" in Survivor history: The classic bullied nerd gets his revenge and changes the entire game in the process. SP wasn't Cochran's best season, but he still inevitably changed the entire outcome in that game.

And yeah, most of Caramoan's newbies were duds...except for Eddie and Reynold. I mean...come on. The Three Amigos. <3 And most of the returnees were good, too: Malcolm, Andrea, Brenda, Cochran, Erik, and even Francesca with her priceless first boot for the second time. XD I really only disliked the episodes with Shamar, and thank God he was euthanized early on in the competition by the deadly grain of sand. The 10th Tribal Council (Philip's boot) is still, to this day, one of THE greatest in Survivor history, as is Cochran's win and Erik's comeback/redemption story. Season 29 on the other hand...just about everyone was unlikable, from the Ken and Barbie couple, to Missy and Baylor, to Natalie, to the twin brothers, to Rocker and his girlfriend...really, the ONLY people who acted like sane, decent human beings were Dale and Kelley (both booted early)...and MAYBE Keith and Wes. The first half was obviously worse, since it was dominated by mostly stupid people making the DUMBEST moves ever (Nadiya insulting Josh, Val's two-idol bluff, Drew, the elimination of Rocker)...and then the second half, while more tolerable, at first centered around overrated fake winners' edits just to see Josh and Jeremy booted, and then the eventual winner Natalie - who had spent pretty much the ENTIRE season not existing - mostly TALKED about how "awesome" she was and didn't DO anything until the last two or three episodes. Mostly uneventful, inconsistent, and full of boring, stupid, and/or unlikable people. When it wasn't downright infuriating, it was just BORING. As Dalton Ross said: "This is a season that inspires neither anger or rage, just apathy, which is probably the worst indictment of all." please do not bring dalton ross into this because he is the definition of opinions being wrong. :(

Cochran? Bullied? I mean sure he wasn't valued because he was a weak pasty nerd, but bullied? I mean he got bullied at Ponderosa for sure after being eliminated, but before that? He was just a weirdo who couldn't fit in. Man, this season could have been saved had he gotten voted off premerge.

Three Amigos were cool, I guess. And the returnees was just an awkward slump. Cochran, Phillip, Andrea, Francesca, Brandon and Dawn? Favourites? While a few did have some likening, THEY were picked? What a mess. Yeah that tribal was cool, but it does not save the entire season...

I don't understand how Jonclyn were unlikable. While their flipping wasn't liked, both were really nice and genuine people, Baylor was boring while Missy definitely was an interesting character to watch, Natalie was a firecracker who could be easy to hate if you don't like her personality, but she played the game damn well and her snark was always fun. Julie was only cast for Rocker so she sucked, but hey Rocker was a hot mess, same with Drew who is basically a badass manipulator of this game. Dale? Sane? Dude was on fire... And Nadiya was not insulting Josh her statement was misinterpreted, and Josh already decided to flip on her before she mode those comments... And Val's two idol lie was believed, and her game was doomed going on Exile Day 1 anyway... and her idol lie saved Jaclyn too. Drew was terrible, but you have to admit that was an amazing downfall episode. Natalie was like UTR for 4/14 episodes so that's kind of an understatement, and what's not to love about two alpha males who one is clearly going to win being taken out in a row. A great reason to love the SJDS editing cuz it's misleading and fun. And Jeremy did not have a winners edit, he got way too negative in the swap episodes... and Natalie always did have a winner edit early on. Not overexposed in the premerge, and always had positive second person visibility. The winners edit has nothing to do with how much they are shown, but how they are personally edited to make them look better.