User blog comment:Chameleon-Guy/Ballooned All-Stars Theory floats away/@comment-26897147-20140530200147/@comment-7985501-20140530212344

Which is why I said Gwen to an extent because she didn't really start any but helped pushed it much further with her own actions(TDWT Love triangle) plus her numerous breakups were notable and noteworthy enough. So yes it's much more than what any of those 5 have done sorry to say.

That was all literally said on my last comment when I said those 5 were involved in drama but didn't start it so...

Yes it did but it was something Alejandro started so my point still stands. Only thing you can defend is their TDA relationship on the Aftermaths and let's be honest.....who cares? They're not even really significant and were just like 3-4 episodes out of 26... they're not part of the main show.

All it did was start a rivalry against them that's all....which was again started by Duncan. No one but Leshawna at times was involved and the only deliberate move Harold made was rig the votes against Courtney and even THAT didn't cause any real lasting side effects even in TDA where Duncan mentioned Harold rigging the votes against Courtney but after that, it wasn't mentioned at all hence forth, not important.

Ok Leshawana forcing Heather down the cliff so they could win the challenge wasn't even really her starting the drama. Heather was being bit** and refusing to jump the cliff regardless of if their team loses and THAT'S what set Leshawna off.... so you could call 50/50 on that part but obviously it was Heather who made it worse and really drove it further with Leshawna going back and forth with her on it. Her problems with Eva was like one episode..... not really noteworthy. Her beef with Duncan was constantly flopping so I don't really see that as any real signs of drama at all. Her only noteworthy move was her actions in TDA when she said what she said against the cast but what happened next....? They dropped it like the next episode and people pretty much forgot about what she said. Point is, while she DID start some drama, it wasn't really all that everlasting or important.

I'm glad we agree on Beth and DJ but I still don't really see Beth as a "secondary character" of importance since she didn't really do much noteworthy in TDI besides the Heather deal and TDA was just sort of there....to get some development but I could see your point supporting her so I guess I could let it slide.

Heather DID start the fight in Germany by mockingly laughing at Leshawna's dance moves and Alejandro making things worse by goading Leshanwa on. Mal started the beef with Al, fine I'll give it that but that's hardly anything against Alejandro considering what he's done and Beth vs Courtney was already being hinted at with Courtney consistantly provoking her and her BFF Lindsay so yeah you could say COURTNEY started it. I'm sure I could bring up more examples but it's just way too much to list... so we'll just have to agree to disagree on our views.