Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-4516085-20141228085158/@comment-24152851-20141229041157

Yeah I get why people like her due to being comic relief, but if that's the case why wasn't she just solely comic relief. I probably would've found her a lot more tolerable in that case, but if she's going to be the antagonist then I expect her to be a proper one. That's the thing with TDPI, all of the antagonists really sucked this season. Not saying they're necessarily bad characters, they're just not cut out to be the antagonist. Amy is the only one who actually fits the antagonist characterization, but she was wasted revolving around Samey. Understandable, I like characters who stand up for themselves, though I don't hate every character who doesn't do that. Personally I wish Ella had retaliated in someway, that was probably one of the issues I did have with Ella.

Like I said, gross humor can be funny, but when it's over the top and done for the sake of doing it, it kind of loses its appeal. Yeah I retracted my statement that Sugar was a godplayer, she only did it twice, I was just talking about that one particular incident though. I mean if Jasmine had won, it would make a lot more sense for Sugar to try to eliminate Ella, but it's dumb that she eliminated her teammate when they could have kicked off an opposing team member. Or if they let Sugar win, they should have just booted Max (and actually given Scarlett and elimination), if they really needed him for her karma then he could've just returned somehow. Personally I think they let Sugar win just for the sake of doing that "Kinosewak inferior team" gag.

I know, and I wouldn't have had so much of an issue with her getting lucky if she was just purely a comic relief character. Having four villains and two antagonists in one season just wasn't a good idea IMO, as it made things confusing and all of them suck at being antagonistic. Thing with Mal, while he's hated and objectively speaking a worse character, I actually felt he was a better antagonist. He may not have eliminated, but he accomplished far more than Sugar did (excluding breaking things): he orchestrated Alejandro's elimination, turned everyone against Courtney, messed with Cameron's mind, broke up Scottney twice, sabotaged the boats and the chocolate sauce, and turned Scott against Gwen. In fact the reason he was hated was because he was too effective, making him a Villain Stu. I'll accept he was a bad antagonist, but I don't agree with people saying he had no strategy whatsoever. He had no motive, which is a bit different. As for Ella, well she could've just told on Chris that she was singing, when their team had lost. Or as I said above if they did let Sugar win, they could just elimiante Max (as he was originally going to be eliminated). That is one of the main reasons why I hate Topher, the other one being he was completely irrelevant to anyone other than Chris up until episode 7.

Well while I do like Ella, I have to say I like Dawn more. Her characterization is so much more unique, with her aura reading and psychic powers. She also feels more suited to Total Drama then Ella, and she has a lot more interesting interactions with more of the cast. And also, I confess the whole Snow White thing does play into why I liked Dawn more. Dawn is inspired by Luna Lovegood, but there's still a noticeable difference, and she's her own distinct character. That's why I love Dawn just a tad more.