Thread:Fire Eater/@comment-24152851-20141126042007/@comment-1037137-20141216023849

Oh, I wasn't expecting you back for at least another day or so, welcome back. :) How are you man?

Kind of is almost law now, isn't it? Even I've joined the crowd now, and I was the one who got in trouble for going too far in my defense of them all last year. I still can't believe the irony of it. But yeah, Cameron probably doesn't deserve that much hate, at least not as much as the other two and certainly not for his role in ROTI. Bad in TDAS, absolutely. But in ROTI, not really. But yeah, his ties to Mike and Zoey, with the three being collectively known as the trio is always used as ammunition against him. For his involvement in both seasons. His presence in ROTI was nothing like in TDAS, a season where everyone was absolutely wrecked, so he at the least shouldn't take flak for ROTI.

A guy who interacts with nobody but Chris for almost the entirety of his involvement in the season? Do I even need to see the season to tell you that that is not a good sign for any character that's ever been made in existence? Without interaction, you can't possibly hope to flesh out any character.

I guess, Lightning had his moments but it's because he was depthless and and was basically an extra in his own debut season that I don't like him. Besides, it kind of annoys me how some fans praise him like he's got the comedic genius of Conan O'Brien or something. He wasn't that funny, at least not as much as some of these Lightning defenders would have you believe. I liked him in at maximum, four episodes. But in truth, he was irrelevant for the majority of ROTI and him making the finals still grills me for the fact that I do believe he floated. I'm glad he didn't win in most countries........Well, except mine. Cartoon Network just loves giving me ammunition. =/ I mean I don't mind that Lightning has fans and I respect what you're saying that he could be funny at times........I just get a little miffed at what I think overstating his apparent "greatness" as a character a bit. I don't see him as having much character or even much purpose, so his legion of staunch defenders continue to puzzle me. But you know, to each their own, I'm not unreasonable.

THAT BAD, huh? Well Topher is definitely not the darling of this fandom, his following isn't really that big at all. And he sounds like a pretty useless character, I get the sense I would not like him. I'd probably be bored senseless by him. Everything you said sounds exactly like what I expect from this guy. He is at the core just another gimmick-type character. And you know I don't really think that's a good thing to be doing, creating characters solely to fulfill a gimmick and then give them no personality beyond that gimmick. That's no way to do it. I'm quite sure that's why people despised Jar Jar Binks in The Phantom Menace. He was just a gimmick, a marketing gimmick at that. And fans hated him for that. Forgive me for abusing such a cliched example, LOL. It's annoying how such useless and boring characters like that get far and we're supposed to roll with it. I really don't like what I'll be in for with Topher when I eventually see the entire season in full. Hell, just his design is mockable I think.

Yeah, I like to think it has worked, but I feel like I'm coming off as annoying again lately, I'm trying not to step on too many toes, you know? Last year I really made an a** of myself here, I'm just trying to put that behind me and carry on with my business without offending anyone by it. I realize I was a pretty bad sport for a while last year. Not too proud of that.

Yeah, and a failure of a villain as well. He was such a mess that they had to actually replace him in that role halfway through, apparently and allegedly because they realized he was not panning out as they had hoped. I don't like their response to the mess he turned out to be, but Justin really had little point from the getco, they had the idea but didn't know how to handle it. Plus I hear production of TDA was problematic. It's unfortunate, he could've been really fleshed out as something more than just eye candy, but instead became that character that the fandom consciously tries to forget. Hell, fans don't even waste their time trying to bash him as they do with Mike. Guess they decided Justin just wasn't worth that kind of energy.