Thread:Fedora Kid/@comment-2147650-20151030004752/@comment-1734566-20151030212648

Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything you said, on all points. I mean, I personally liked Cochran in SP, but I can see why he was unpopular. And I never saw Tyson's original season, but I still understood what a blunder he made in HvV, and why him winning BvW was such a redemption for him.

And yeah, I mentioned on another thread with BarBar that pre-gaming was obviously gonna be a huge factor here, and aside from the initial, seemingly-obvious connections of multiple people from the same seasons (the Cagayan 4, the SJDS 3, etc.), there were two HUGE pre-game alliances in particular: The first was Shane's alliance, which he half-revealed in an interview with Rob Cesternino immediately after the WA reunion. He said it was just him and three other people, but wouldn't say who; Redmond Martin eventually confirmed that it was Shane, Terry, Varner, and Kelly Wiglesworth - but obviously, that alliance is now officially done, lol. The other one was also mentioned by Shane and confirmed by Tasha, but was fairly vague: It was universally believed to consist primarily of Spencer, Tasha, and Ciera as the core three, with the other possible members being Vytas (for his BvW connection to Ciera) and Monica (for her connection to Ciera via playing with Laura Morett in Samoa); but of course, it hasn't worked out so well with either of those two alternates, while the three core members are still in and about to make the merge. So maybe something can happen there? Shoot, Spencer and Tasha both now have solid connections with Jeremy, so they could pull Jeremy in - Tasha could also rope in Savage since they've been a tight duo, so that right there could be 5 solid members. But obviously, only time will tell.

I didn't see PI either, but from what I've heard, pretty much universally across the board, Savage was going to be the season's main threat and would've likely gone far - if not won - but was screwed over by the "Outcasts" twist. So he really is one of the top people this season most in need of a second chance.

And Kelley Wentworth is really interesting, because she's probably the most unique Second Chancer out here: She wasn't horrible her first time around (like Jeremy or Shirin) nor was she amazing (Joe, Spencer, etc.); she was literally just a blank slate with no personality and no game in her original season, booted before she could even make herself known. So she's very much in that "Russell in HvV" or "Malcolm in Caramoan" position where no one knows who she is or what she can really do, so she's the ideal person to make it far; plus, she's proven herself to be fairly competent in both strategizing and challenges, with a somewhat decent social game. But is she just "ZOMFG AMAZING" like the strange little "Kelley Cult" on Survivor websites is making her out to be? No, not really - I mean, seriously; besides the premiere, she hasn't even been a huge factor this season due to being overshadowed by people like Varner, Abi, and Jeremy. And I still see obvious flaws in her gameplay - for example, her literally RUSHING to throw Terry under the bus after the tribe swap just SCREAMED "desperation," similarly to what got her axed her first time playing. But hey, she's probably gonna go far nevertheless because, again, she isn't an obvious threat like a Spencer or Jeremy, so only time will tell if she does better.