Thread:Ttowen/@comment-1037137-20140814200637/@comment-1141831-20140815134442

See, before AS I would not be ashamed to say that Sierra was my favorite female cahracter. I liked her in World Tour, even if she was a little creepy, simply because I had always wanted a stalker girlfriend lol. But you are right Fire, they didn't bring Cody back because they thought the Coderra story was neatly wrapped up in World Tour (it was). So why rehash it with something even more dreadful like Camerra? They seem to have made a point that at this point Cody is either learned to love her back or suffering from stockholm syndrome (similar to Belle from Beauty and the Beast), so why not bring him back and have the two of them actually work together. Show Sierra's strong points through her leadership and determination; make Sierra and Cody a force to be reckoned with when they work together; similar to Jasmine and Shawn in PI. The possibilities were endless with this one, but I'm sure they will just stick to their MO of defending derailment by calling it "Development that others don't like". Don't even get me started on the other season heroes that could have been brought in instead of her: DJ, Beth, Harold, LeShawna, Bridgette...we needed more male representatives of the original cast anyway. Al was a great enough WT representative, and it made sense with him actually being a villain. Sierra was never a hero to begin with; being a member of team Cody who only looks out for him does not make her one. It's likely the last we see of her in a long time

Honestly I don't see too much wrong with Heather this season. I always considered her to be one of the characters to neither benefit or derail from the season: much like Jo she remained the same. Sure Island Heather would not have told anyone her plan, but World Tour Heather sure as hell would have told Alejandro to taunt him; I'm positive that had it been anyone else she wouldn't have even thought of saying it. It was just a picking up where her story left off, and I found it fitting that Al get his revenge on her. Sure he deserved it in WT, but it was nice to see Heather go before the season headed into full on derailment mode. We'll definitely see her again; either she'll team up with Al in RR or be in a future season; either way, she won't be gone for long.

Lindsay is a character who I use a lot in my examples of positive character development. She started out as a follower, stood up to Heather, came back full force to lead her team in Action, was screwed out of said season, came back again in WT to end a running gag by remembering Tyler, and was incredibly bold and honorable in the Aftermath when she refused to laugh at Tyler in pain. I love this girl to pieces and I just despise how stupid they made her in AS. Sure Lindsay has always been dumb...but she has never been so dumb that she forgot what directions or pushing things were. That was an insult just to continue the running gag of her voting herself off. At least this time she did it intentionally, knowing the derailment that awaited her ahead and getting the hell out of that season. I don't think we'll see her for a while though; she hates the show now.

Gwen has been brutally mistreated since Island ended. I would have supported her breaking things off with Trent had she cared to talk about how his obsessions were affecting her and effecting his team. I know Gwen is socially introverted...but if she can full on beg Courtney to help fix their problems then she could have done it for Trent. She screwed her team over in Action to cover up a lie, something that seems out of character for her Island self...but when you look at second half of World Tour Gwen it adds up. World Tour Gwen took half a season not really doing much aside from arguing with Courtney and Heather, then spent an episode of friendship with Courtney after their arguing had stopped in Jamaica, then stabbed her in the back by kissing Duncan and lying about it. Duncan at least said "let's clear the air" in Fight For the Gold, sure he threatened Tyler, but I always saw it as him wanting to wait until he had the right way to word it; still not a good thing, but less despicable than never wanting to tell her like Gwen did. She stuck around for a few episodes before being booted far too long after it should have happened; similar to Owen and Duncan that season. All-Stars Gwen was by far the worst offender; not only had she deluded herself into thinking that Duncan and Courtney were broken up at the time (they weren't), but she became a shriveled up, crying waste who preached teamwork and comradeship, yet abandoned Duncan at the very first chance of being friends with Courtney again; even though he spent a majority of that season defending her. She has a habit of abandoning guys at the first sign of a problem in her relationship. As Fire said, had she maybe just wanted to end the conflict with Courtney, bury the proverbial hatchet, instead of becoming ambiguous super besties, her story would have made sense. They did not need to make her an emotional wreck to do this...instead they could have just made her someone who worked hard to EARN Courtney's respect and friendship back. Maybe had they given her a reason to dump Duncan on the spot, instead of having him mention Courtney once or twice, I would have supported another sloppy break up scene. Now...ugh...Sundae Muddy Sunday...did they really need to revert Gwen to her season one self?! Much like Cameron they sent her exactly to what she was before the series started: Just a jaded goth girl who hates everyone and everything. Her elimination was just a cheap way to get rid of her, after they realized that the only original camper left was a previous finalist. They also turned her into someone who cheated in the game, something she typically has too much honor to do. Just another character tossed to the side by the season.

Duncan was someone I was uneasy seeing again in AS, especially since both Gwen and Courtney were around, however since they had marketed the season as being an "All-Star" season (it wasn't) it made sense at the time. He spent the first part being semi-likable; defending Gwen at every turn, and even taking himself out of a challenge so she could be kept in. Then hit Moon Madness...ugh I despise this episode almost as much as SMS. They make Duncan not only keep the secret of Mal to himself till it is far too late...but also ended Gwuncan in the laziest fashion possible. Don't get me wrong, I despised the pairing too, I just wanted to see it ended in a much more appropriate fashion; instead on a way that, as Fire said, brought out the worst of the competitors. That's when they decided to start the incredibly rushed redemption arc; something many would have appreciated, had its inception made sense. Had Gwen confronted Duncan on why they were breaking up, pointed out how he wasn't the center of the universe, and that his arrogance had just cost him two amazing women he would never get a chance to be with again, then have Duncan realize what a piece of s*** he had been, maybe it would have been much better recieved. Instead we got Duncan thinking that accepting a piece of cake makes him a good guy, causing an "out of left field" identity crisis that NO ONE could relate to. Had they gone with the idea above, it would have been a relatable, mature take on the boy that would make him grow as a person...instead of a whimsical tale that went absolutely nowhere aside from prison. I don't even count the prison as karma, karma is something dealt out by the universe as a result of your actions; usually ironic: Heather's hair was shaved, Justin wound up injured, Al and Scott wound up almost fatally injured, and Courtney was cheated on; the last one is a terrible example but I'm sure you get the message. What Duncan received was punishment for his crimes, not karma. He broke a law, got in trouble; that isn't karma. This would have been a much better play on that story:

"Just before the elimination ceremony, Duncan and Gwen go into the woods, where they think there aren't any cameras… fat chance!)

"So Gwen, you said there was something you wanted to talk to me about?" Duncan asks, smiling. "Yeah Duncan… I'm just going to be straight up with you right now, Duncan, we're done." Gwen says emotionlessly.

His eyes widen in shock…"You mean… you're breaking up with me?" "Wow, real quick on the trigger Tex!" Gwen replies snidely. "But w-why? I haven't done anything bad to you…" Duncan says wide-eyed.

"No, but you've done horrible things to my friends… you really upset Lindsay when you dumped your puke bucket on Tyler's feet this morning, in fact, I've been the voice of reason here… TYLER WAS APLOLGISING YOU PRICK!" She screams in disgust.

"Then you compare ME to Courtney for sticking up for my friend?!" Gwen gets right up in his face now…

"But what really got me, Duncan, was when you said you 'just lost interest' in Courtney, really Duncan? Classy" she says with sarcastic venom in her voice.

"Uh-no Gwen, it came out wrong…-"Duncan says, backpedalling walking backwards till he hits a tree.

"YOU MEANT EVERY WORD! DO YOU REALLY THINK I'M THAT STUPID?!" She screams, tears in her eyes. "And by the way, YOU HAVE HURT ME!" she screams right in his face again.

"By hurting my friends, by making me puke too, didn't notice that did you? Oh, and you also picked on Greg every time you came to visit! That hurt me too" Gwen says between sobs.

"Hey, the twerp needs some toughing up-"Duncan starts to say. "Oh just like what your brothers Kory and Jordan said to you when you were growing up?" Gwen says. "Hey! That's-"Duncan tries to say before he's interrupted again.

"A little too close to home? Well it's true! You may try to act like you're like them, but you're EXACTLY like them!" Gwen says, tears flowing from her face.

"If we had lost tonight, we were going to vote you off" Gwen says. "WHAT?!" Duncan screams in rage.

"Yeah, we all agreed that you should go. Justin, Zeke, Alejandro, AND Scott all wanna kick your ass! Jo is ashamed you're even on this team… and I agreed with Heather that you had become a liability." Gwen continues, shaking with rage.

"YOU, MADE, ME, AGREE WITH HEATHER!"

"And I hate her guts! But right now I hate you more than I hate her right now" Duncan's jaw drops. "Yeah, now I get a reaction, I don't even know who you are anymore! That's why you and I are done, Duncan, goodbye."

Gwen says, walking off in a huff as Duncan slumps to the ground. Duncan can all of sudden hear snickering in the darkness. "Who's there?" Duncan asks, standing up suddenly. "Oh, just someone who thinks it's hilarious that you're finally getting what you deserve" Justin says, walking out of the shadows, a huge grin on his face.

"Great, you gonna throw it in my face Justin?" Duncan says with Venom in his voice. Justin's grin vanishes, and he charges Duncan, grabbing him by the cuff of his shirt before he can even react.

"What, so now you're gonna beat me? Hit me if you want, I could care less" Duncan says. "Oh despite how much it would please me to see you bleeding at my feet…" Justin says, his face contorted in rage, releases Duncan.

"… No, I came to show you something" Justin says, as he pulls out the Skull pendant necklace, now cracked right down the middle. Duncan's eyes widen again, and his face contorts in anger, and it's his turn to grab Justin by the Collar. "Where…did…you…get that?" Duncan says through gritted teeth.

"If you must know, I found it in the confessional 2 weeks ago after you implied that Courtney was Jealous, and that 'you just wanna piece of me again', yeah I'm not as dumb as people think I am" Justin says.

Duncan's face softens, and he lets Justin go. "Thank you, now I ask you...she kept this all this time… do you know what that means DUNCAN?" Justin asks.

Before the Elimination ceremony… Duncan calls Gwen, Courtney, and his buddy Zeke into the Woods.

"What do you want Duncan?" Courtney asks. "Yeah, it's kinda strange you called us to these woods eh" Zeke says. "I called you guys here because it's private" Duncan replies.

"Gwen, Courtney… I just wanna say I'm… man this is hard for me…-" "Spit it out already!" Gwen says impatiently. "I'm sorry Okay? I'm sorry Princess for cheating on you and not being straight up about it" Duncan says.

Courtney's jaw drops.

"And Pasty, I'm really sorry for being such an arrogant, insufferable asshole to you, to Greg, to your friends, and you were right about everything… you were so right" Duncan says.

"Damn straight" Gwen replies.

"Wait a minute, how do we know that you're not just faking regret again?" Courtney asks suspiciously.

"Yeah, How DO we know Duncan?" Gwen says.

Duncan chuckles in response… "I had a feeling you would say that... if I wasn't sorry I wouldn't say anything, and just use this…" Duncan says, pulling out the box, and opening it to reveal the Invincibility Statue!

Now all their collective Jaws drop practically to the ground.

"H-how long have you had this?" asks Gwen. "Since last week, but I'm not gonna use it, instead…" Duncan then hands the Box to Zeke, who gasps in shock.

"W-why are you giving me this eh?" Zeke asks. "Because Ezekiel, you're my buddy, and you've never really had a chance on this show before, I hope this improves your chances" Duncan replies.

"T-thanks eh… I don't know what to say" Zeke says.

"I wanted to do one nice thing before my sorry butt is voted off" Duncan says.

"Ok, you have me convinced… I won't be voting for you" Courtney says.

"Me neither, but I don't think any of us will be able to convince anyone else" Gwen says.

"Pasty, I don't doubt it, I`ll see ya later" Duncan says

Ok Vultures… I'm actually surprised you lost this one, you were the stronger team heading in, and there were more of you, I was proven wrong" Blaineley says.

"Yea, yea… yada yada and so forth… can we just get this over with?" Heather asks quite rudely.

Blaineley scowls at her… "Fine, Heather, Alejandro, Jo… you obviously get the first marshmallows" Blaine says as she throws the Marshmallows at them.

"Next is Gwen" Gwen catches hers.

"Izzy" She hugs Zeke, then runs up to get hers.

"Eva" Eva catches hers, smiling.

"Zeke" Zeke wipes his brow as walks up to get his.

"Courtney" She smiles as she catches hers.

"We're now down to three… the next one goes too… Scott"

Scott lets his breath out in relief as he catches his.

"And now there's only two… Justin, you fainted before you were to fight Dawn in the second round. Many on this team feel you're a pretty face and little else, will they be proven right tonight?" Blaine asks as Justin glares at his team.

"Duncan, you have quickly alienated all of your team in the time you've been here with your vile actions… will they be you're undoing?" Blaine asks as he just shrugs.

"Tonight… the last marshmallow goes… too… (Cue the dramatic Total Drama Elimination theme music)

…

Justin glares at Duncan as he's sitting there.

…

…

Duncan just smiles.

…

…

"Justin" His face brightens up as he catches his. Courtney runs up to him and gives him a kiss.

"I was so sick of this damn show anyways I could puke, good luck guys" Duncan says, winking at Zeke.

"We'll miss ya dude" Scott says, shaking his hand.

"You're a good friend Duncan, thank you eh" Zeke says.

"No problem guys… well, I'll be seein' ya" Duncan replies as he walks down to the Dock.

Blaineley's waiting for him. "Any last words Duncan?" she asks.

"No I said all I needed to say" he replies as he puts on the helmet, climbs into the Sureshot of Shame, and is fired out him screaming "HOLY CRAAAAAPPPP!" off into the distance.

Elimination Confessional, Justin: So I'm still just a "pretty face" huh? Well I'll show you how much damage this pretty face can do… I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!

Final Confessional, Duncan: I'm glad I'm going… I don't deserve to be here anymore, I've been a total jackass to the two greatest girls I've ever had the pleasure of meeting… Justin good luck with Courtney, don't screw it up like I did. And Gwen… I'm just really sorry, for everything. Good luck Zeke.

"And that is it for this episode, the most brutally violent so far. Many questions still remain… How long can Jo keep her attraction to Brick bottled now? What is Zeke's big plan to take out Heather… and how does it involve Mike and Zoey? Scott now has the evidence to take Heather down, when will he use it? What malicious intentions does Justin have towards his team? And will this episode be banned in some countries? Find out next time on Total, Drama, All-Stars!" Blaineley exclaims as the camera pans out into the distance.

Voting Confessionals:

Heather: My plan worked! I'm concerned about Scott's knowledge, but I'll address that later, for now… GOODBYE DUNCAN!

Alejandro: My vote goes to Duncan, sorry amigo.

Jo: Scott! That stupid redneck white trash cost us the challenge!

Courtney: I vote for Scott, he played dirty and probably cost us the challenge.

Justin: I've been waiting for this a long time… bye bye Dunky.

Eva: Scott may have played dirty, and Duncan's a massive jackass… but you chickened out Justin over a little blood?! You're useless… therefore you get my vote.

Scott: I hate to do this… but it's me or you buddy, Sorry Duncan. You'll pay for this Heather, I'LL MAKE SURE OF IT!

Izzy: Zekey told Izzy what you did for him Duncan… thank you. Izzy therefore votes to get rid of the tumor that is Justin! He's scheming something as we speak… I know it!

Ezekiel: I don't know what to say eh… My vote goes to Justin.

Gwen: I vote for Scott, don't really like him all that much anyways.

Duncan: I vote for myself… I'm done with this f*cking show"

All of that was actually condesed from two episodes of my buddy GunMaster's All-Star do-over series. I didn't have time to censor all of it. But as you can see, over the couse of two episodes Duncan was humiliated several times, beaten a couple, and shown what he really is. Spoilers, in the aftermath he has decided that he is sick of being a punk and being a delinquent; now he dresses normal and is a normal person; in short, he matured. THAT is what route they should have ran with him!!!

Alejandro was useless for a half of a season, had actual plot in one, then just godmoded his way to his elimination. His only real point in the season was to beat Jose; which could have been moved up so that he and Sierra were gone way earlier. In the end he lasted WAY too long, walked on his hands for a majority of the season, and somehow managed to continue lasting long up until his elimination. He was derailed, developed, and then derailed. WT Al would not have been beated by Mal, he'd have kicked his ass. WT Al would have brought the other contestants to the video control room so they could see Mal for what he was...not hope they would trust him.

I would do Courtney, but I have several times in this and the other board lol after class I will do the revenge derailments.