Thread:Fedora Kid/@comment-26278817-20151126025739/@comment-1734566-20151201014219

Again, him being "completely" safe in the pre-merge is NOT his own doing. It was blind luck that he happened to be on stronger tribes all three times. You're seriously giving him WAY too much credit there.

Kass, again, I concede, sure enough, that was fine. Whatever.

Savage's blindside...indirectly caused by him? Are...are you serious? You do realize that makes it WORSE, right? Because Savage going WASN'T Jeremy's intention! He wanted Kelley gone, and he CHOSE to not split the votes. It was a VERY easy thing to avoid, and heck, it could've been HIM on the chopping block. And sorry, but no; Savage wasn't the target of the three girls because Jeremy somehow "pushed the leadership role onto him;" Savage was the target solely because he and Ciera had a personal beef, mostly caused by Ciera out of pettiness. That was it. For all they wanted, they very well COULD have taken out Jeremy since he was also an obvious threat - THEN he would've been blindsided WITH an idol in his pocket. Once again, you're giving WAY too much credit, and honestly, you're spinning the facts about this one right around to basically turn a horrible blunder into a seemingly-clever move. That's like giving Mike credit for orchestrating Kelly's blindside in Worlds Apart, lol.

Wiglesworth: Again, how? You kinda just vaguely hinted at how this worked for Jeremy without getting into the specifics. Again, if Jeremy really was focusing on putting pro-Jeremy voters on the jury, then why didn't HE come up with the move? It was Kelley who organized it, not Jeremy. Jeremy was eventually persuaded to go along with it AFTER it was proposed by someone else - just like Kimmi with the Monica blindside. That's just giving him credit for floating along with a plan, not actually creating it.

Ciera: It seems we agree - yes, it was technically a good move, but an idol play doesn't take much. And the implications beyond that ONE boot are serious; the fact is that one of his closest minions, Stephen, STILL received a solid majority of votes, and they ALL knew it. So naturally, Jeremy should've done a better job afterwards trying to rally his troops and turn votes back away from Stephen, right? But he still FAILED at that job, because, again, Stephen was eliminated in the very next week; all because Jeremy was absolutely outplayed and outsmarted by Spencer. And that's a failure ESPECIALLY considering the fact that JOE WAS VULNERABLE in the week of Stephen's boot. For the FIRST time, post-merge, Public Enemy #1 is vulnerable, has no idol, and Jeremy STILL couldn't rally enough support to get rid of Joe, AFTER Stephen used his advantage? That's just pathetic right there.