Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20150203224621/@comment-1037137-20150207015031

Yeah, I just need to determine to myself how I intend to put all of this into action and how to put it all into words when I use it to guide along my next critiques and questions, I'll be referring back to this thread for a while as I do that. I think they do need some reminders for sure, both of what fans responded negatively to and what impact it has had on this fandom. Our fandom is large and active, and also extremely divided and prone to bitter debate and disagreement. You can't please everyone and no way you can get 100% agreement on anything, that's just life. But I don't think it can be argued that after Island the questionable, often bad decisions and nasty turns taken in all of its followups have fueled a lot of tension among people. There's constantly argument and negative word of mouth of the series even with its diehards praising it through and through. And it so often gets very ugly.

Okay, so maybe they got the message about Mike and the reset button, but at the same time I can't help but feel that if the reminders were to just stop (Realistically they probably won't, but nonetheless) that they would readily make a similar mistake given the chance; seeing how they went through with this among other ill-advised plots at all. (Yes, I'm very skeptical) But maybe you're right and on that count I could just be being paranoid. But do they understand how everything else about The Final Wreck-ening was also a bad idea? (And the rest of the Trinity?) That's what I still want to know.

Fair enough, then maybe shift it away from Mike for a while since he's been covered by hundreds of people. There are other critical points to touch on in the meantime for sure.

It was refreshing to hear that, honestly. Even though I think some kind of a formal apology is still owed for the disappointment and offense many felt. Still, if misfires like this are to be prevented from being repeated, gotta keep them at the forefront of the discussion. My big point is still character development, that's my number one. Fortunately, most complaints leveled against the show easily fall under that banner and so we got a lot of traction there I think.

Oh, good. Because the fact that we keep getting left on such a bad note with so many characters, especially among the original cast has been far too persistent and easily the biggest sore point for many. That needs to end urgently. I agree, we need to tread carefully in asking the question, and that is a common response that I am very tired of hearing when the question does emerge. Crux of it is it's clearly just to hold us over. I think redeeming the cast should be a top priority in later seasons, whoever returns who despite being popular came to be widely regarded as derailed later need to have a more positive showing without repeat of prior trends or incidents that led to the scorn they got in the first place. Again, I can't know what their plans are or what to expect, but we are owed a good run with the characters from the casts who fans feel have had the worst treatment or the most negative spotlight. It's that negative portrayal of so many of them that is killing things, it spreads like a toxin. You taint the river, it taints every adjoining stream and lake bed in turn. Start fixing that, and things will finally start clicking again. We need to see seasons like Island again where you could just have fun with it, not spend every episode asking ourselves who's getting derailed today.