Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20141008061648/@comment-1037137-20141014075953

Oh I can imagine Stryzzar, we all thought she would be fodder, we all hoped she would be fodder. And I know I wish she was fodder because what's to like about her? Nothing from what I've read and viewed.

I officially hated that son of a b**** with the TDAS finale, probably sooner than that even. His actions in that finale are inexcusable. And in the TDPI finale he screws with the characters' relationships just to stir things up further, that guy is officially scum. And again, is there ANY reason whatsoever for him not to receive payback of any kind? Any at all? As the series' true main villain, it should be him feeling the pain. All the time. What he's doing now is neglecting their safety outright, emotionally torturing them, and all but trying to kill them. Is any of that supposed to be funny??? I don't get it at all. Don't most people want to see some payback for this sort of thing?

Oh yeah, Gwen and Courtney may very well have had it the worst of all of them. They get the most overexposed and focused on in every massive blowup that takes place and their characters have been constantly turned inside out to lay on the drama even thicker while also making them all the more frustrating to watch and more unlikable. And they were pretty popular during the Island days, but now the controversies are becoming far too much. I'm not sure how they can justify it, what purpose does any of it serve? Again, you can see my DeviantArt submission highlighting how horribly derailed both have been. As for Emilie Claire-Barlow, that has to be a coincidence. She just provides the voice, not the scripts, and she does a superb job at it. But it's the direction they decided to take her character in, and that was not her own doing. I'll bet you she's not thrilled with what's become of Courtney. Imagine having to record for some of the scripts she has been given. Her first VA was good, whoever she was, and Barlow is good too, but so much time spend with Courtney's derailed TDA self in later seasons has been bad for her and the show. Her original persona was still deeply flawed but still humane and likable, and fun to watch. So it's still safe to say she was horribly derailed as they exploited her more and more. But now that the Duncney drama has died (For now......), why the hell are they still at it with her derailed self? She should be bouncing back but they still find a way to blow it sky high. The fake redemptions ARE outrageous, stick with it to the end and stop looking for new excuses to torment her character or to annoy viewers with her worst tendencies. Even haters will tell you TDI Courtney is the one they'd prefer to see again. And that is a good question: WHY won't they leave her alone? STICK WITH the redemption so that everyone can feel better about her character again. This routine is both tired and unsettling.

Oh I can? Good, because I am pissed off man, very pissed off with a lot of the more provocative elements of the show. I hope that word is allowed here, because I don't want to get in trouble for using it.

Exactly! What happened to the brooding but still accessible Gwen who preferred her privacy and had a thing for the dark stuff when not chilling with the handful of people whom she did trust openly? She had great depth and intrigue in TDI, and was one of the best things about that season. Now those elements have been sodomized and she is looking too girly for her own standards. And now just comes off as an impulsive, even stupid individual who doesn't think things through before she commits to them. That is NOT the Gwen I was introduced to in TDI. And you're right, her friendship with Cameron was arguably too fast because you can make the case that it was just to pair up the two campers who technically do not fit the villain label. (Cameron DEFINITELY does not, but Gwen's a toss-up due to her actions in TDWT) And yeah, nerds weren't her kind of people, so perhaps you make a valid point there about their friendship becoming too tight too fast.

I LOVED the Gwen/Courtney friendship in TDWT, and not just because they both shared a hate for Heather but because they got along humanely and were interacting strongly, something not seen in full in TDI and not much of in TDA, and it was great! People say they weren't even good friends in that season, but I don't care, I LOVED their time spent together in the first half. Seeing them bond was one of the things I was most excited to see when TDWT arrived.......

So can you imagine my burning resentment for the fact that they f***ed it all up in TDWT and then in TDAS all over again? Can you imagine how cheated I feel by that? >_<

I will never forgive that, mercilessly deconstructing two great characters for drama that is either unwelcome or makes literally no sense. With the same two people every time! WHAT THE HELL.

Mal and Mike's disorder were a massive mistake an miscalculation on the part of everyone involved. To the point where I have heard that Ms. Giles herself acknowledged Mike as a "universally hated character", which suggests he does not have much time left in this series. And if that's the case, then Goodbye, Farewell, and Good Riddance! And Cameron had literally zero purpose for being in the season, the writers seriously didn't have a clue what they wanted to accomplish by his presence, I'm convinced. They were flailing about trying to find a purpose for him, but ultimately failed to write one for him. As professionals, that's the sort of thing they cannot excuse, it was just so beyond inept. Especially when you consider his considerably stronger development in ROTI.

God, I miss LeShawna, Bridgette, and Gwen's friendship! What happened to that? Why can't we enjoy stronger and more convincing friendships? Friendships that last? Why do they remove all the positive aspects of the series? Drama is NOT the sole element of the series to be focusing on, that's only one factor of the formula, NOT the entire deal!

You got that right, TDAS sent people backwards, not forwards. Easily and unquestionably its worst crime. Character Development, are they so arrogant or ignorant that the very lack of that is what's killing the series? The show has not lived up to its full potential because there is such a profound lack of it now. Only derailment, and we know how virtually everyone feels about that very toxic trend of the series.

It's getting VERY hard to defend the trio when you consider how blatantly they were favored in TDAS at the cost of everybody else, even as they themselves backtracked in the process. Seems all Fresh TV and its partners at CN and Teletoon did was vindicate the accusations of all of their haters. Nice Job Breaking It, Fresh. You guys set yourself up for that one bigtime, and you're probably never going to hear the end of it.

Commando Zoey was A LOT of fun, and I like the battle-hardened Zoey who took no crap from anyone and was a warrior. Was it godplaying? .........Maybe. But what the hell, at the time it was fun to watch. But her character's an absolute mess now, and Mike is making it MUCH worse for her. Their relationship has become way too big a focus in a series of over fifty contestants, a relationship thousands of fans don't give a s*** about, and yet is continually shoved down their throats. No wonder they hate Zoke. And now I hate Zoke because it is an uninteresting pairing that has stolen way too much focus throughout the series. At a terrible cost, I might add. Hard to deny that it's had a negative influence, and a lot of the damage Zoey sustained comes from her very unhealthy relationship with the guy.

Ugggh, yeah. Without Mike, Zoey might've emerged a much stronger character, rather than coming off as unfeministic pander to the younger crowd. Which I'm sure she's constantly accused of being, just one to talk down to the kids. Whether that's true or not, it's an unfortunate mark she's become associated with and the studios again made it too easy for them to be criticized for how she's been used and continually showcased as a central character.

Maybe I can help you rescue her from the Scrappy heap. I do not want Zoey to be the main focus of anymore seasons, but I do want redemption for her still. Without Mike. If you have room in that campaign of yours, maybe you could squeeze me in? Because I am dedicated to highlighting how almost the entire cast is misused.

Didn't matter much to me, I guess Heroic Hamsters. But at that point I was starving for some character development from the cast.......Something I ultimately did NOT see come to pass.......that the teams didn't matter that much to me. Though I might've leaned towards Hamsters as that was Court's original team and that was before my vitriolic hatred for Mike and realization of Zoey's flaws came into being. Now? I think both teams lacked any flair or appeal from how they were both ultimately played out.

That might've worked had it come to pass. Cory Doran's a swell voice actor, but his character is just f***ular. And one thing's for sure.......portraying MPD/DID in this kind of show mostly for comedy was from the very start a very BAD idea.

Ed MacDonald doesn't know jack about Total Drama. And it shows in all of his TDAS episodes. How such a writer was brought aboard when he did nothing to prepare himself for the task is beyond me. And this was NOT the season for newbie writers to be at the helm. BAD move. He may have been working with fresh material he could not screw up in TDPI, but the man still has much to answer for for his damning work on TDAS.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Still, those episodes REALLY outrage me still. I'm not kidding, worst episodes I think I've seen of any series. I've never seen such insulting work come out of one series, those last three episodes of TDAS was a deliberate insult to all of us in this fandom. And for that reason they should not exist.

Terry McGurrin, I'd love to have a word with that man over his handiwork. Because his episodes are viciously controversial and cruel, and have pulled some of the lowest blows in the series. He should go back to voice acting, but now he's the Executive Story Editor for Ridonculous Race. Damn it!

I try not to, but I still can't get over how that thing, still counted as canon, actually exists.

God yeah, that's where Cameron really went downhill. One of the worst twist endings to one of the worst episodes in the series. Nothing about this season suggests they put any thought into anything they were doing. Everybody called bull**** on that one.

The latter. Duncan was alright in TDI, okay in TDA, but deplorable from TDWT onward. And I blame him for killing that season for me. I do not feel sorry for him being arrested. Good riddance! (Though even I don't wish the whole balloon thing on him)

Maybe, but she's inherently tied to Cody and only Cody, and her obsession over a character who wasn't even in TDAS made it a horrible repeat of her TDWT plot and made her purely psychotic. She has no character beyond Cody. Sierra is neither likable nor compelling for her one-note stalker lifestyle.

I am MAD as black hell about the character derailments in this series.

No no, it "not being their season" is one thing.........What they've been doing since TDA is an entirely different ballgame. A lot of the characters upon their exits have been a butchered mess 90% of the time, rendered unlikable, unsympathetic, or just brutally humiliated. Nobody goes out with dignity or as themselves anymore. This show is thriving off of a profound obsession with cruelty and passing it off as humorous. Otherwise the derailments would be much less and it would be simply a "just not their season" type of deal.

Oh TDAS was out to destroy the series and its characters, and if TDPI hadn't come on the following summer I think the franchise would be all but dead now. I cannot make sense of how that came into being.

Yeah, ROTI. Yeah, I don't care if I get mocked for that by some, I liked ROTI. Much less bull**** than the other seasons so I am allowed to like it even with its evident lack of popularity among some circles. I left happy and content with that season even with its problems duly noted, and that's more than I can say for either TDA or TDWT.

Yes, but I think TDWT is where things got really bad, and the love triangle will forever remain a damaging controversy. As will Feral Zeke.

Trust me, I am not excuse TDA's problems, it has MANY. But if it's a choice between TDA, TDWT, and TDAS, I'm taking TDA. Though I'd still love to know how TDI got followed up by such a pathetic sequel that doesn't really offer much action of any kind.

Yeah I dislike those aspects, and Dawn's elimination which also was too early and too cruel. But ROTI has much less garbage in it than some of the others, which makes it an okay ride for me. Or perhaps people think I should call it a guilty pleasure instead. Either way, I take issue with those things too, but on the first go with the season I did have fun, and I wish to be left to that by the rest of the crowd.

I still think TDWT had some of the most damning problems with the series before TDAS reared its ugly head, and I'd still be slamming it now if not for that f***ing nightmare that we got later.

Honestly, I don't give a s*** about the singing aspect of TDWT.

True, MOST of the songs were good, with a few exceptions.........But those are only 90 seconds per episode and therefore not really a gamebreaking or gamemaking part of the season's format. It was a gimmick. Maybe it lent itself to the season, but in the end it's entirely irrelevant. It is not critical to the plot half the time, it is not a central factor in determining the integrity of the cast and stories, it is all a lure. Don't get me wrong, the songs ARE good for the most part..........But only a relatively minor aspect of the season as a whole. The season still failed on many counts in terms of both character development and integrity, and saw a lot of overly cruel humor injected into the series, and THAT'S what makes this season an astounding failure in my eyes. Its appeal was KILLED by the utter disrespect it had shown to its longrunners and underdogs, and no amount of catchy tunes, as great as they were were going to save it. Not after the lines crossed in the second half of the season were crossed. And the first half was also loaded with astounding stupidities.

So with all due respect, and with full acknowledgement of your own preference for the season, I just want to say flat out that I HATE Total Drama World Tour. And I have no regrets in saying that I thought it sucked.

But, to each their own there.