Thread:Fire Eater/@comment-24152851-20141126042007/@comment-24152851-20141210145328

Well I see you've already added him. While I'm not completely certain, I was under the impression that with scrappys and base breakers, you're either one or the other, not both. I believe the tropes popularity scale goes: ensemble darkhorse > base breaker > scrappy. With Rescued From The Scrappy Heap somewhere inbetween.

I tried adding Topher to scrappy on the YMMV page, and it got removed and he's now on base breaker (even though he makes Justin's popularity look like Lindsay's). How I personally judge whether someone is a base breaker is, if discussion on a character regularly results in flame wars, with a fair share of people on both sides, then they should count as a base breaker. That used to be the case for Mike, but now everyone knows just how toxic his character's portrayal of a disorder is, and he feel clean into scrappy status.

It's alright Fire. I can completely understand if you feel the need to vent your anger, feel free to do so if you want to. I have to be the one to resist the urge joining in. My actions just made someone else unhappy, and I just can't be having that.

I never really considered Staci a gimmick since she didn't even have a proper stereotype, but I guess she does count with her lying. I think Justin might qualify, with his gimmick being his sexy "powers", that make even sharks do his bidding.

The whole Dave and Sky thing is probably the one trace of the tarnishing from TDAS. It's main fault is the trademark writing style of those two episodes they got wrecked. ... Ugh just once more, Terry McGurrin.

Tell you what, I'll ask Julie if where in for anything "different" for Owen, and specifically bring up the reasons why he hasn't been well received amongst older fans.

It's alright, can't really crticise when I'm guilty of the same thing. I do sometimes have difficulty responding, since I don't always have access to a computer, but I think I can manage. Also I think I'll be pretty inactive on the wiki for the next few days, just got a packed schedule.