Thread:Greenhatdigital/@comment-1037137-20150201072119/@comment-1037137-20150211222241

I see, so this is what the staff had to say of it? This is interesting to hear.

Unfortunately, I don't think this gag resonated with a significant portion of the fandom even with that rationale in place. Ma'am, I have to be honest, there are plenty of people, myself included, who would say that these humiliation-based "jokes" are going a tad too far now. It also loses a lot of its touch if the contestants are in legitimate danger of death or severe injury. Other examples including the balloon scene or Scott's trauma chair, don't these seem a little extreme regardless? A lot of people thought so. I mean there's comedy, and then there's unpleasant gags like these.

Chris is another story, but lately he's really pushing more buttons as a character a lot more than in his previous appearances.

The thing is though that's not how the show originally was prior to its export to the U.S. through those studios, it was designed for a young teen audience upon its debut and became a lot more geared towards the 6-12 age group as it carried on into later seasons, that wasn't the tone during Total Drama Island, Action, or World Tour (Which still brought in plenty of younger fans). Even if that was the case back then, it wasn't profoundly so until the newer seasons. It's not a reason to overlook the built-in adult fandom either, you got a lot of people from their late teens, early twenties, or even older who are still faithful followers and who have said why its more mature tone from the older seasons worked to its advantage and lent it its appeal, while watering it down for the sake of the younger crowd has undermined other aspects that kept it fresh. Just because they want to aim it at younger children doesn't mean there's no room for sophistication. That's what seems to be implied, and that's what I don't understand.

Whatever the case may be, gags like these, including the Flush of Shame have not been popular with a lot of people. For a lot of us they've been just unpleasant. It's one of those jokes that came off as over-the-top, and it doesn't help that so many people soured on the character treatments in the same season, which were especially bad.

I'd like to pass this along to the crew: We all want to be able to enjoy our favorite characters, but by that, we do not solely mean their constant humiliation at every single given opportunity, there's more to it than that. We want to see them develop, and they can still be funny without going overboard by that. If the impression is that the humiliation aspect is all that matters to fans, I assure them that isn't the case.