Thread:SilverthehedgehogMan/@comment-32002708-20170514012310/@comment-4726418-20170514014732

Josee does have redeeming qualities objectively speaking though. She's very adamant and winner-hungry but that stems from her overly concentrated childhood along with her dreaded olympic backstory. She's a very forceful person but for me it balances out with the fact that she makes grand comebacks every now and again in the form of her and Jacques winning a leg.

And it's not like it's all the other contestants she's mean to either. Her and Jacques for example have been compassionate to each other several times whenever they bond over either winning or sabotaging others. Plus it wouldn't really make sense for her to be nice to the other contestants. She's practically in her own reality and is way more focused on her goals. That's why her only friend is Jacques, because they see competition in a much different way like their life depends on it. She still ends up friends with at least one person, which is more than I can say for Scott or Sugar. If you wanted her to have someone to not be mean to, you have Jacques.

Josee IS a poor antagonist but she was never really meant to be a particularly great one to begin with. Her and Jacques weren't even villains until halfway into the season when their spirits dropped in My Way or Zimbabwe only for it to be a non-elimination round. That kind of comeback is going to set them off and want to be on top, even by dirty means. The whole antagonism game is way newer to them, which is a lot different to Heather who always had a manipulative self, Justin who always got by on his looks, Alejandro who had a sweet talking way about him, Scott who always enjoyed the suffering of others, Sugar who was raised to be cutthroat about competition, and probably others. The difference with the Ice Dancers is that the whole antagonism game is new to them. For them to be really impressive antagonists just wouldn't mesh well in my opinion because nothing had been established before that would hint they'd be amazing at being villains. I love them as antagonists, but not because of how "successful" they are. That was never how I judged a villain. For me it's about how entertaining they are. If anything, Josee, and by extension Jacques, are more just a nuisance that other teams have to flick off. The fact it took them 3 episodes to eliminate even one team proves my point.

i'm not even going to explain why the creepy smile thing is her thing and why it rules.

And if you enjoyed the conflict with the Cadets, why is she your 2nd least favorite again...?