Thread:Raised By Wolves/@comment-4726418-20180318011148/@comment-4726418-20180326105344

Lol nice to see you replied, wiki activity is pretty much dead otherwise.

Yeah, you're referring to Lord of the Ring Toss. To be fair I liked them more in that since they had a storyline and relevance for once and I can get behind the new thing of them both being self-conscious about how useful they are, but it's also an episode that's one of the major times they could've made them more negative but didn't. Edgic all relates to editing, so they easily could've elaborated more on the Surfers clashing with each other or touched more on the Ice Dancers' disliking of them. It felt like such a missed opportunity and one of the main reasons I really don't like them as finalists. Usually, finalists of reality tv go a long way facing challenges along the way to overcome. Sure there's been exceptions like Owen and Lightning but they at least had established flaws to them to still seem balanced characters. The Surfers not only rarely have to overcome anything but their flaws are... they're kind of stupid i guess??

And I know it gets brought up a lot, but I hate their return even more on rewatch because they easily could've centered the last two episodes around the Cadets/Ice Dancers/Sisters and there would've been much more important things going on. I can't even remember what the Surfers did apart from Brody getting fatter and their comedy being even more hit-and-miss than before.

And worst of all I was watching the finale on youtube and planned to switch to the Cadets ending once the last minute and a half of the episode was approaching, but before I did I had so many comments below either saying things like 'I'm glad the Surfers won' or 'Cadets should've won, not the Surfers' not realizing that there's two endings to choose from to begin with. It's actually a major problem I have with the Total Drama community and it occurs every season, and ends up devolving into petty arguments about things like 'Well I saw x win on TV so that means they beat y!' and it's so needless and sometimes annoying.

This is a tangent too, but after watching RR again I found another new flaw with Noah you can endulge in!:D In Hawaiian Honeyruin when a team member of each team goes underwater to find rings, you're only meant to have one ring in order to proceed. For competition reasons, I assume they only had one ring for each team. Noah decides it's okay to steal an extra ring and is only stopped by Mickey drowning and holding onto Noah hoping for a ring. Noah of course rolls his eyes and exclaims that he was going to SELL the extra ring for money before reluctantly giving it to Mickey, meaning that if Noah hadn't bumped into Mickey he would've committed petty theft of a ring probably belonging to the producers and would've then sold it for a few wads of cash. Despicable. His team, the Surfers, Geniuses and Stepbrothers were definitely the weaker parts of the season for me.