User blog comment:GWEN+TRENT FOREVER/Why I view Noah as a failed character/@comment-26910203-20160308043229/@comment-26910203-20160310042723

"Lindsay tried to remember Tyler's name and DJ had his curse, plus both had a good friendship in the Amazon."

Really? Lindsay and Tyler's plot was never the focus of an episode, it was used as a brief recurring gag. DJ's curse fits the bill but ties into something bigger, the deterioration of Team Victory, this was one of the only plots of the first half of the season. I don't consider interactions "plots" especially not one that basically began and ended in the same episode. If you're going to talk about that then why not include Noah's interactions with Izzy and Owen, they were recurring prior to I See London.

"Noah didn't have a plot nor an episode focused on him aside from I See London."

Wrong, Noah also had a brief plot in Slap, Slap Revolution where he tried to determine if Alejandro could be trusted.

"And eleven episodes is around the same amount of episodes of a character that lasted long in a short season."

Yep, in a season with less characters to balance and a significantly low amount left at the end of the eleventh episode. (I mean, dude, by that point you're down to like 5 people max.) So no, that is not a fair comparison.

"And if that's you're exceptions for Noah, then, they're pretty lame because he could do so much more."

Okay, are we debating the character's potential or assessing their time on the show? Choose one, not both. This "could do so much more" can be applied to more than half of Total Drama's characters so why not voice your complaint in general instead of a with a single character. I already told you what I thought of his role on TDWT (it wasn't that bad and he had a place as the "voice of reason"). Honestly, by this logic, I can view any character as a failed character because there is so much more that can be done with them.

"Showing potential in the competition, a conflict with Alejandro or at least having some sort of plot."

Um...there is more to potential than "plots" Noah was a valuable member of his team for the most part, he was one of the reasons for the teams wins in the Yukon, Paris, Newfoundland and he was a major team player in London of course, if Noah wasn't eliminated because of Duncan's return and Chris' bias it is probable that he would've made a bigger splash but for the purposes of the dreaded love triangle and the Heather/Alejandro conflict he had to go. You said yourself that he had a plot in London as well, the majority of the characters eliminated in the first half only had one plot, most of which were brief (the only obvious exception being DJ), in fact, chances are, if you are not a main character of said season you only have one plot. That is how it has always been.

"And he needed to last longer, but he didn't, you can't say that's not a problem at all."

I never said it wasn't a problem. I See London is still one of the most forced endings in my eyes. I can argue that Tyler should've lasted longer too considering he also was barely in the series prior. I wish he would do more in the future but "such and such" not having enough plots or not having enough of a presence is not failed. I remember when WT was first airing Noah was one of the most quoted prior to his elimination, ask anybody who likes Noah and the thing that made him special and that led to their disappointment in Noah in RR was his sarcasm and his relationship with Owen, so he had his place as witty comic relief and as an amusing side character. Can he do more? Yes. Is he failed? No. I think the problem you actually have with Noah is that he didn't reach your expectations, which is fair, but that doesn't mean he was failed.