Thread:UnderdogFan28/@comment-4742462-20151204023419/@comment-4742462-20151212022652

@UnderdogFan28, Yeah, they were the only worthwhile part about it and why this episode is the only one of the three that I'd consider 'meh'. And honestly, if you take out their development along with the stuff with the Ice Dancers, you can remove this episode entirely and not feel like you've missed anything considering that the rest of the teams are stagnant. Never liked Junior's crush on Carrie either due to the Unfortunate Implication it opened (a 13 year old crushing on a confirmed adult since Carrie is 18). I was kind of expecting them to just dump the lava rock upon some other team and have them get cursed and cause their elimination. People would also try to excuse the logic with the Ice Dancers in this episode as "It's a cartoon" which is a pretty bad excuse to try and silence criticism. While it's inconsistent, I'm honestly glad they dropped the Nomma/Nemma cliffhanger because had it continued it likely would turned into another Best Friends type of dragged out plot...

New Beijinging is pretty much nothing but puking for a half-hour which outside of being a non-elimination and the stuff with the Haters is why I don't have a very high opinion of the episode. I would say that Josee got more insane (and annoying) in later episodes (especially the last six or seven). Outside of Father & Son and the Goths, there's nothing worthwhile about that episode. And aside from the stuff with Nomma/Nemma, this episode is another case where you can remove it and not feel like you've missed anything. Rockers being spared came across as a 'f**k you!'. An episode that's 'meh' but borders in the dislike category.

Lord of the Ring Toss is easily the worst of the three as it focused the most on the Haters and once again baited people like me (who hated them so much that they wanted to see them die) to believe they would FINALLY get booted only for them to go 'f**k you!' and keep them in to further drag their out tired repetitive crap out even longer... Yeah, stuff with the Ice Dancers & Surfer Dudes was annoying. I talked to Stryzzar awhile back and he said this episode would've been the perfect place to eliminate Geoff & Brody considering that the Ice Dancers' attempt to sabotage them backfiring feels abrupt (almost as if the dictate to bring them the finale had just come in if it's to be believed that their return was due to studio interference). Goths were the only good thing about this episode and the next few to come. A very, very pointless episode and easily the 2nd worst non-elimination leg of the season.

Most of the non-eliminations felt unnecessary and convinced me that Total Drama really shouldn't be doing 26 episodes anymore even if going back to the traditional episode length seemed like a good idea on paper. If they wanted to make this season more like The Amazing Race, they should've instead have it be anywhere between 16-19 episodes, remove at least six teams, and make sure the non-eliminations (if there are any) are very spread out (like every 4-5 episodes) and not every other episode for the most part.