Forum:Dissolving the Council

Considering the Council is just there to make decisions behind the back of everyone else, it only serves to deny all users an opportunity to have a say. Everything would be fairer if everyone had a say, a true tried fact which forms the basis for a Democratic country. There's a reason that Oligarchies don't get far. No one else can so much as intrude on anything that's decided by the party in power, which in this case is the wiki's "Council".

So why not just remove the Council altogether? Make this wiki a happier and more approachable place. I'm tired of being told I can't visit the council IRC room, I have a right to know what's being discussed, as well as every other non-Council member of this wiki.

Let's not bring this to a vote just yet. Let's have everyone have a chance to discuss this. --Callofduty4 17:11, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think the council is fine the way it is. We do know what is being discussed. We are told after the meetings. If my idea takes off, which is that 2 or 3 regular users will be able to visit the meetings, will put this theory to rest, because it will not be just RBs and admins, and will give regular users an insight into what goes on at council meetings. ~ RPs & Writes! ♪  Dakota    ♫  Talks & Edits!  17:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well your idea is a step in the right direction, but why only let 2 or 3 regular users? Why not all of them? --Callofduty4 17:24, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Because if IMO, we let too many people in, I feel like it would be too hard to get everything they needed to get done done, and there would be complaining and fuss. ~ RPs & Writes!  ♪   Dakota    ♫  Talks & Edits!  17:27, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I want this wiki to have the same set up as every other wiki. It works for everyone else, it can work for us. Enough with the naysayers, let's do things like everyone else. -- Nalyd Renrut - Legendary Snipe! Master of epic pwnage 17:25, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I came back to the Wiki for one second just to say YES to the idea of getting rid of Council. Worst system ever. ~ Poli ~  Count!  Watch!  Talk! 17:47, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

It's easy for someone to say that every user should have an equal say. That way they don't have to positively contribute on the Wiki to make a change. The reason that everyone on council is where they are is because they have a history of helping the Wiki, being positive and well-behaved members, and obeying the rules. They deserve to have a position of power, and they are all trusted to do what's best. I know that some people don't like how the rules are right now. I'm not going to deny that there are flaws. But every site needs to have some sort of authority to make final decisions or it would simply be unorganized chaos. I wouldn't object to letting other people see the council, but as for participating, complaining about the rules won't help. I'd support a few regular users being able to participate in council decisions every now and then. Just as long it's no one who shows consistent rudeness or causes conflicts. We can't leave it up to any members without any sort of condition, or it may not be in the best interest of the Wiki.  TC  Not just any cartoon. 21:00, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * The authority is the administrative team. They don't need to be a shady Council to be authorious. --Callofduty4 23:14, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with TC. Think about it this way: The U.S. government. Sure, it's absolutely horrible with everything right now, but think about what the U.S. would be like without the government. It'd go down in flames. With the history this wiki has with fighting and conflict, I don't think it's good if we take away Council just yet. Also, if you have read it, I agree with TDA15's blog. Neko-naito "It's a fact and scientific that I'm still Nekorific!" 12:15, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed with Poli, Nalyd and TC. No more council. -.-' --  Webkinz Mania     Talk     Blogs     Contributions     Editcount   22:40, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know (yet) about getting rid of them completely, but I really hope Council loosens up their powers a lawt. Like us users should know what is going on with what the Council's thinking at all times, and we should be able to enter the IRC during a meeting at any time and have our descision heard as well (s'long as it isn't crazee.). :DD -- Look, Wings!  Yes Gwen, wings are way more important than the talk you are having now.  22:55, June 16, 2011 (UTC)