Thread:Stryzzar/@comment-1037137-20141008061648/@comment-1037137-20141009020715

It's alright, I know how it is. And thank you for your kind words, opinions only mean so much unless you have the logic and the reasons for feeling the way you do about something. And yes, I am very passionate in my opinions, and especially with this show as of late being a fan ever since the first season aired on CN for the first time. I care a lot about what is happening to the show as the seasons go on, and I try to defend it as best as I can when I see that it is not in top form as it once was. And yeah, there are a lot of antagonistic characters I do not care for, but I still respect some of the villains. Heather is one I do respect in particular and enjoy seeing develop beyond just being a villain. Courtney is one I still enjoy, but more for the character she was and hope to see return to that old self. Thanks for respecting my opinions on the villains.

Yes, TDAS is the last thing of the series I saw and even if I had seen TDPI....I think my rage would still be strong. I am infuriated at how we've been treated and how the show and its characters have been treated. This season reads like they just cobbled whatever nonsense they could together and just didn't care about how it might resonate with us. Not very good, as we've all seen. And it truly is some of the worst writing I have ever seen any series dish out, bar none. I think it's disgraceful that something of this poor and even offensive quality ever aired at all. Seriously, this season is embarrassing. Action and World Tour were bad, but this felt like a complete mulilation and mockery of the series.

Oh no, they still have a lot to answer for. And they should answer for it, this kind of nonsense has gone on way too long and as TDAS shows it needs to be stopped. As for TDPI, I really don't know if it's going to be enough to really make me feel better about the series, I really doubt that. I mean I know my deep resentment towards them holding themselves to such a low standard can't be overruled by one semi-decent season. They still screwed us over on the 2nd generation and screwed us even worse on the original generation, which is a cast that deserves a helluva lot better than the treatment they got. We deserve a helluva lot better. I mean Total Drama Island was superb, there is no excuse for what we've been seeing.

I can't tell you if TDPI would have the same therapeutic effects on me. I still feel like that even if I liked it, the fact that it just carries on like TDAS is no big deal is just distasteful. It's hard to get over something that went out on such a pathetically bad note, and I don't appreciate this crew carrying on like there's no cause for concern for the series or the characters when we saw what that season did to them both. So part of me feels somewhat hostile to TDPI for setting that tone.

Thank you. Yes, I'm still a Zoey fan, in spite of all the crap that has been done with her character. And as you said Stryzzar yes, there is A LOT wrong with her character and how they have used her. I was never under any impression that Zoey was a perfect character, but I never could bring myself to hate her because I do find her likable personally, but I do very much now understand why so many people don't like her. I got in a lot of trouble last year for getting overly defensive about the character; if I knew how much of a mess TDAS was gonna make of her, I'd have said nothing. Because for a character who I do feel could be made so much more engaging with smarter writing, they instead made her problems even worse in that season. And I went in hoping they'd address those as they went. But that unfortunately didn't happen, and I am firmly against the Mike vs. Zoey finale that ended up being complete bull**** and a lot of misguided pander. It's really insulting what lengths they went to to make sure she and Mike won without resistance. And it was a grand scheme that did NOT pay off.

But, I did enjoy her in Revenge, that's the Zoey I prefer. But I also want her to develop as a person and as character. I hope she can still get that someday, but not as a main character. After TDAS, it's obvious that making Zoey the hero again would be a dangerous move. And they have no need to play that card a third time either. I'm tired of them doing the same crap over and over again with worsening results every time.

Samey is like Zoey done correctly? Okay, that I can believe.

Yeah, that is a major issue, and pursuing plots that either don't amount to anything or just flat out don't make sense. And they have left too much open-ended, because somebody's under the delusion that we don't care about the characters they don't like to use all the damn time. The screenhogs aren't the only people we care about in this cast, they could stand to acknowledge the rest a little more frequently, not much to ask for. Especially since they do not use the screenhogs very well lately, so both sides lose as a result of their carelessness. All of those you mentioned are completely valid questions.

Most pressing issues from TDAS? The derailments of the cast, the worsening cruelty (Cruelty does NOT equal funny, not like this), the childish jokes as opposed to Island's maturer edge, and what the hell became of everybody in the finale? I'm still fuming over that. My anger against the issue that is Mike pales to that when talking strictly about that one episode. But you know that I too am mad about how invasive Mike has become.

Well, I can sort of see your reasoning Stryzzar, and you're right that such a lie should not be upheld, as much as I hope most kids know that it's foolish to expect something like that to be fixed that easily. I mean yeah, you should never uphold a lie like that, and even this show ought to be setting a better example, not doing things like justifying acts of cheating or what they did with Mike.

But unfortunately, I don't think it would be worth it. He's not a good character and the fallout would be enormous. It might be easier to disregard TDAS and Wreck-ening entirely. After all, they add nothing of value to the canon whatsoever. So it might be easier, and better for all, that such a season never be acknowledged as having happened again.

But yeah, I'll read your blog when it comes despite my stance on this point. Do let me know when it is near ready.

That episode, like the other two, is all kinds of pure WRONG. You can't justify an episode like that and it deserves ALL of the flak that it got. I mean it's just an insufferably stupid episode that was dedicated to making everybody a total jack***. And don't get me started on the bear crap scene with Gwen. I mean, Good Lord. Truly one of the worst. And who knows? When you take this and the other two episodes, does it seem all that unlikely that these were intentionally bad? Because who's judgement was so poor as to assume anyone would like these episodes, or not get a massive backlash for it?

But what I hate about Booty-ful is its callous disregard for what happened in the last episode. Again, like TDPI to TDAS, you DO NOT just dally along and pretend that nothing like that matters to the point where it never had any significance in the first place. I do not care at all if it's an elimination show, just brushing past events off like that is again very insulting. Like ignoring a problem they created when it never had to even be a problem.

Sundae Muddy Sundae....For me that may be the worst, they get Courtney's character back on track and to a lesser extent Gwen's, and then they DESTROYED it. All of it. And it is an insanely cruel and mean-spirited episode even for this series. Yeah even some of Courtney's greatest haters don't try to justify this episode, that should be ample warning to the studio about what happens when they derail their characters and don't even lend them any development or consistency. I mean that episode was entirely out to destroy one character, and seeing how a lot of people myself included still love Courtney and how we're all tired of her heel-face turns, that was just sick and wrong to do. What is it they have against this one character? I mean if you go to my DA I have a motivational in defense of Courtney and Gwen, who I think have been the worst derailed. This episode made me so furious that I gave up. After all of that development you DO NOT do that. What purpose did it serve? None! It just got Mal and Zoey by for another episode, and they weren't even the favorites to win. Courtney was, heck, even Lindsay was. But even if they hadn't, I wanted to see character redemption for the returning originals, and they blew it! God, I hate this episode so much. This episode is not just bad, it's evil. Like Booty-ful and Wreck-ening, it's just pure evil.

Four weeks being content that the girls finally mended their rift and finally not being so bitter with the series for a change..........Shattered by the extremely misguided judgement of a few with the next episode, I'll never forgive that, as extreme as that might sound.

And speaking of Wreck-ening, my hatred goes out to that stupid reset button, the island sinking, and worst of all all the cast floating off with NO mention of them being okay. That.........is Unacceptable. Because in case they conveniently forgot, we DO care about those characters, we've followed them for years. And we don't even know if we're getting a season six! And it's not coming soon if it does. That's how we get treated, that's how the characters get treated? I so want to have a word with who wrote that scene, along with that reset button and the island sinking. For me it's the only thing tied with Sundae as worst episode ever.

All three episodes man, they have to be some of the worst things ever written. And to me that is hardly an exaggeration, they together were an assault on the fandom.

Yeah looking back, that episode really isn't that good either. Giving Feral Zeke a whole episode? When are they gonna let that joke die?