Thread:Fire Eater/@comment-24152851-20141126042007/@comment-24152851-20141216032255

Oh right, Tuesday for me is Monday for you. Anyway, yeah I'm really tired from it. Studied till 1 last night, and then had to get up at 7 to get there. I'll probably hit the sack after this reply. xD

I will never understand what made him so "atrocious" in ROTI. Tbh I still think it's his voice and physcial appearance that makes him stand out amongst other hated characters (even though most people don't use the reasoning these days). While he was horrible in TDAS, my one defence against that is he wasn't in-character. If Heather can be excused for being OOC in giving Alejandor the idol, or Courtney for the dreaded SMS, then it just isn't right to treat the crap he was given with in Zeek And Find as part of his actual character. Everyone in that season was not themselves, save for the first 4 out, and maybe Zoey who's still has the same personality (or lack of it) even though she was used so much more worse this time round. Btw, I went through your Cameron entry on the Scrappy page. I haven't removed it, but just corrected a few things. "Broken Base character" is just called "Base Breaker".

Yeah your absolutely right, even Lightning's humor is overrated. While I wouldn't call him boring (I completely understand why you did though), it's the same repetitve thing over and over, that takes little creativity to make, and some people just eat it up. I definitely did not find him as funny as people claim in ROTI, in fact I fail to remember many Lightning moments at all. Sure he was on the screen a lot, but what he did was mostly irrelevant to the plot so it just didn't leave a mark. All of his "idiot moments" could've fitten in any episode, and I struggle to remember which one goes where. One of the only one's I really liked was when he mistaked Jo for being gay. But just for the sake of getting the Lightning worshippers to shut up, I just go along with it and say he's funny. They'll never stop going "Lightning's hilarious" "Lightning's the best character ever" otherwise. Ironic thing is, I think him winning in almost zero countries really contributes to why Cameron is so hated. It's because Cameron is clearly the real winner, and Lightning fans are so jealous about that they keep accusing him of "stealing the win" from their brainless god.

I honestly hope he never returns, and I rarely say that about a character. I feel almost every character (no matter how much I hate them) has potential to be better. He is just an overused gimmicky plot-device that overstayed it's welcome far too long. If he was just "boring" then it wouldn't be anywhere near as much of a problem. I don't hate boring characters, because most of them just sit there and barely exist, so you might not notice them half the time. But this guy is something else all together. He's an attention wh**e, and every second he's on screen he has to shove his face in the camera. Being unlikable is on it's own enough, but this unlikable idiot has to keep trying to make himself the centre of attention. Not to mention he never seems to shut up, to me he's like Staci if she was allowed to last for half the season.

It's okay, I think we were all that kind of person at some point in our life. But that's what we do in life, we learn from our mistakes, and that's what's important.

I think TDA Justin was there attempt to flesh him out, and it just was not done right. It's almost understandable why they made the decision to make Courtney replacement villian for him. If he was just fodder like he was in TDI, with that shark gag, then I wouldn't have anywhere near as much problem as I do with him. Some Justin fans excuse him by saying he wasn't meant to be a villain, and shouldn't be thought of as such. But thing is, he was still an antagonist of TDA, and if you're going to bash all the other sucky antagonists for being terrible, then he gets it as well.