User blog comment:Stryzzar/Who is the Greatest Antagonist?/@comment-1376932-20140609061205/@comment-24152851-20140610021553

Wow, I go to bed and comeback and this comment gets flooded with replies.

@Zoether, I thought we had already settled that thing. Courtney is an obnoxious, lying, whiny, backstabbing, selfish, sociopathic excuse for a human being. But what puts her status as a villainy in ambiguity is because that's not what she wants. A chain of events tied together drove her to become evil, she later enjoyed that evil and kept at it (that's her fault), but she wasn't entirely to blame for it. Of course I'm talking about Basic Straining where Duncan enticed her to disobey rules, followed by Harold causing her to snap. Very few villains have a distinct trigger point where they can begin to be called evil. Since we're both quite versed in antiheroes and antivillains, I'll refer you to the exact type I'm referring to. Our good friend tvtropes has provided an in-depth analysis of the different types. Well Courtney is what is referred to as a "Type II" Antivillain, or a Woobie Antivillain which means they do not wish to ve villains, but the circumstances made them as such. Even if Courtney is 'delusional' it still means she doesn't want to be a villain, and hence fits this category.

@Fire Eater, Zoether's not a bad person, and neither are you. You two are just fierce debaters, and that can be a great quality at times. However we all need to know when to stop, I suggest you join a debating club where you can actively express yourself (I very nearly did, but couldn't sue to clashes, but I still served as a substitute member on occasion). And this quite clearly Zoether's favourite topic, which he has quite deeply studied, believe me I know very well the temptation to pour out knowledge on an area of expertise, it's only human to do so.

@Solar, Courtney isn't. It's just sometimes antihero and antivillain gets mistakenly treated as the same category. Theaters "antihero" often gets treated as a garbage dump for any character who slides between pure good and pure evil, without properly analysing the underlying qualities. Not directing that at you Ryan, I've seen you use both terms correctly before, I'll just assume you were busy and that was a mistake due to rushing.