Forum:Removal of unneeded interaction pages 2.0

Hi. Do you remember our first proposal about deletion of unneeded interaction pages that got rid of many unnecessary pages? Or maybe it wasn't even the first one? Well, definitely the first one for so many pages.

But that's not the end. Some more pages could be deleted. I guess they either didn't exist at the time, or were added too late, and thus didn't get enough votes.

So here's a new list of interaction pages for deletion.

Since it's very important change, let's say it requires 15 votes on one side to decide its fate. If it won't have 15 votes, then the deadline is '''June 30, 2016. The side with at least 10 votes wins then'''. If neither reach the minimum votes, the page is kept.

P.S. Please, don't be biased. Don't say they should stay just because you want to have as many pages on the wiki as possible. We want to have a good quality pages on the wiki. Thank you.

To show you're not biased, I advice you to give the reasons why you want this page to be removed or not. The more reasons, and the better explained reasons the better. Also, remember that support side is for deletion of the page, and oppose side is for keeping it.

Art out.

Anne Maria and Jo
Suggested by Phoenix. I don't know why, so ask him. I guess it's too short?

Support
03:07, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 1) I gotta side with Phoenix on this one. The only revelant episode was in Ice Ice Baby. ~ NThree   What are you talking about?   See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Eh......... This should be a lengthy-ish interaction on Everyone and Jo. So Long,    Soggy McGee  04:37, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"
 * 1) I actually think this deserves to stay. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Same! Geez, this page isn't that bad. - AnimeKid.
 * 3) This should stay, they had an important conflict.  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 4) This page is needed somehow.  Wait,   What?  12:47, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I wonder why Phoenix suggested it.
 * No, just no. It was important and this page is good.  I can talk fluent Portuguese and Brazilian!  (Tyler?) 16:33, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 2) This one should stay they had a major conflict and yeah. --JamesQuentinMoore (talk) 17:23, May 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) I made this and I have to say, it's not really that unimportant. When I first made it, it was way longer than it is now. I understand that some edits by me make pages look longer than they actually are so I get original edits. But now it looks like it became unnecessarily short. Like, their interaction in Ice Ice Baby seems way shorter than it should be. The whole point of their conflict in that episode was to display how Jo's mind works game-wise. In the confessional, she reveals how she knows how to mess with Anne Maria's head. Even besides that, there was a repeated back and forth, and it wasn't just Anne Maria trying to punch Jo. All in all, I think the conflict is pretty important bearing in mind that Anne Maria and Jo both have their contrasting personalities much more empathized most of the times that they interact. So there's that too.  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Discussion
I left and came back and what i saw, another of Ryan's poor descision after the horrible, horrible support of Everyone and Anne Maria. They most heated moment its Ice Ice Baby and after that, not really since Anne Maria is too busy with the boring couple and Jo is too focus on Cameron and Brick. And the only reason its big cause its full of rubbish plus i never bother to summarize it.

 PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Actually, I'd say it was most important in both Ice Ice Baby and Runaway Model. Not too good, but not too bad either, especially as for 1 season interaction. - ArtDraw12

That passage in Runaway Model is the same thing with most info on Bridgette/Izzy and Heather's pages. Nothing but badmouthing each other. And its suppose to be short, not long. Summarizing it now.

And voila, now the page only has one important ep that doesn't involve bad mouthing each other.

Here's another reason i reject it. Its the equivalent to pages like Bridgette/Heather, Izzy/Heather, the currently deleted Bridgette/Eva, Bridgette/Duncan cause the conflict is only one ep important and other than that is just exchange of words.

You guys better come up with better reasons than "It is important" cause that reason is NOTHING but horse s***. Try to guess how many "Important" pages that were proposed before. The two rejected Everyone pages (Ice Dancers and Anne Maria), Goths and Ice Dancers, Courtney and Owen, the people who wanted same team RR interactions, all give no reasons other than "Important".

 PhoenixDragonSamurai 

As for same team RR pages, I tend to give the reason that some interactions were changing, like Emma and Kitty, Carrie and Devin, and Ryan and Stephanie. Those could also be pretty long, even after not including competition-related info, I guess. But I don't know. Someone would have to make a prototype first.

P.S. Wow, I'm surprised you voted to keep short pages like Duncan and Zoey, and Duncan and Mike, and that you voted to keep Everyone and Eva only because she wouldn't have an interaction page. I thought you'd put quality first in all cases. :O - ArtDraw12

I already said, conflict pages need to be more detailed than friendship pages. And this page is pretty much another Heather and Trent. Duncan and Zoey can rot for all i care since its trivia is not really strong either.

The only reason i chhose Duncan and Mike to stay was its strong past history, a rare case where someone meet someone else in the past, which is also the reason i created DJ and Harold which is strengthen by its 3x same team like Owen and Izzy & Gwen and Heather. And this single strong trivia is worth more than stuff like "there are the only/one of two contestants to this and that crap.

Everyone and Eva, this would be my only bias vote but its still better than Everyone and Anne Maria and even Cody.

 PhoenixDragonSamurai 

But back when people believed Izzy and Justin met before TDI (they actually supposedly dated after her elimination), we didn't have a page for them. :/ - ArtDraw12

That because we are not sure what she said is true or not. Which is also the reason why they are not mention in any K&S, Duncan and Mike, Amy and Samey. In fact, the trivia in Katie/Sadie charater page explain that.

 PhoenixDragonSamurai 

You guys want to strengthen my reasoning? Fine. It has no character development, no storyline at all, nothing, just strings of insults than can be put on Everyone and Jo. Its the same reason with Bridgette/Heatehr, Bridgette/Duncan, Heather/Izzy. As i already said, friendships can put whatever rubbish in it but conflicts must be stronger than just insults. Take Brick and Jo at least got reasons that made Brick eliminated and also because their conflict is just more than insults.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

I'm neutral on this one. Although I'd like to point out that both Art and Phoenix removed information from this page recently, which is why it seems shorter than before. Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

I shorten the page to make a point that this page is filled with rubbish. Every sentence that came out from their mouths are in that page.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

@Mughees, I actually added information, by adding a pic on the Backstabbers, Ahoy section. - ArtDraw12

Beth and Harold
Short as for multiple seasons interaction, and was important in only one episode.

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) As explained above. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Too short - Gordon003
 * 3) Pretty useless.  Wait,   What?  12:47, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) If we're gonna pass those interactions with focus in only one episode, we're gonna have some pages as "Courtney and Justin", "B/Dawn and Scott" and more.
 * 1) It can easily go on the new Everyone and Harold. This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 2) I don't really care what happens to this one, but sure I'll support it. -- "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,   and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Can be put into the new Everyone and Harold page.
 * 1) It's pretty pointless. ~ NThree   What are you talking about?   See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Bridgette and Duncan
Suggested by Chewy and TRRFan6. Rather short, and was relevant only in like one episode.

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) As I voted on the previous proposal. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Most unneeded one.  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 3) Would've been better to be added on a fandom wiki.  Wait,   What?  12:47, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) What's the point of it? Gordon003
 * 5) Most interactions are one sentence-long. But I do except this to get a pretty decent paragraph on their everyone pages.
 * 1) And here i thought some people chose for it to stay last time. They only have one confrontation and even so, its not face-to-face. All others are just mocking, insulting or whatever that are also not face-to-face.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2) It's useless, what are they doing next? Lindsay and Duncan? Owen and Mr. Coconut?  I can talk fluent Portuguese and Brazilian!  (Tyler?) 16:33, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Why is this one a thing?  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 4) I think I opposed it last time, but I've changed my mind. Duncan and Lindsay had more significance and that's not even a page. -- "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,   and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:59, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) ~ NThree   What are you talking about?   See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Completely agree. This interaction page doesn't have to exist anymore. Duncan 99 New
 * 4)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Discussion
Here's to irony. A lot of people are actually defending this page last time. In fact, there is more oppose than support. Actually, Duncan and Lindsay is stronger than this page. "STRONGER" but still not qualify.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Brody and MacArthur
Well, just like most of RR interactions, this is rather short.

Support

 * 1) Short. The only reason i support it in the proposal is to complete it.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Oppose
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Personally, I believe this is one of a few RR interaction pages that can stay. I know it's not too long, but it's not too short either. I only added this because I remember Phoenix saying he'd add it on this kind of proposal. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Still could have further development in the future - Gordon003
 * 3) Nope, this one needs to stay. Wait,   What?  12:48, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) This one has to stay.  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 5) I still stay strong behind my page. They both made it far and had a lot of interactions, this is one main crush so not giving it a mention on the wiki would be bad. If before it only almost qualified with around 5,500 bytes when I started the page, now it has around 8,000, it's pretty long, especially for an RR interaction page that shouldn't be too long in the first place (because there's obviously less interaction there).
 * 1) It's pretty long and good quality, I don't see why anyone want it removed.  I can talk fluent Portuguese and Brazilian!  (Tyler?) 16:33, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 3) It's short, but being an attraction and an interaction between finalists adds weight to it. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Duncan 99 New
 * 4)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Discussion
Sorry Phoenix but I have to disagree. I tried my best not to put any rubbish in it and it seems summarized to me, if it's not than the change isn't too major. And look at the page,there are pretty much big paragraphs in it. I know this isn't one of those "huge" pages but it still worths being on the wiki, especially as a one-season interaction. "Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"

One season with 26 ep vs one season with 13 ep. If this were the former, i would support, but sadly it isnt. PhoenixDragonSamurai 

I'm just gonna say they did have episodes with main interactions and that you should take into account that this is an RR page, you can't except it to be that big. Also, may I ask, why isn't Alejandro and Bridgette proposed here and this page does? Both have around the same amount of bytes and Yukon's section can be shortened (I didn't read it all but it can't be that long), both are part of 26-episodes season and Alejandro and Bridgette is imortant only in episodes 1, 4 and the aftermaths where she just repeatedly insulting him for being mean.

A single strong ep which is equivalent to Geoff and Gwen in Trial by Tri-Armed Triathlon. Plus this conflict affects her greatly, especially in her relationship with Geoff. Aka, character development (or whatever it is) plus storyline and other stuff that would make even a short interaction MAJOR.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Cody and Duncan
Just look at it. It's too short, and minor. It was important in like one episode. It can simply be mentioned on Duncan's Everyone page instead. And it's a multi-season interaction page! :O

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) As I explained above. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Useless.  Wait,   What?  12:48, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) One episode isn't enough unless it's very important which it isn't Gordon003
 * 4) I don't see why Cody punching Duncan and interactions of only one episode can't go under Duncan's everyone page.
 * 1) It was important in Greece's Pieces too, just saying.  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 2) No relevance once Gwen was eliminated. Only had a direct conflict in 2 episodes --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah, can probably be put in Duncan's page.
 * 1) Yikes! This is the most pointless one. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Familly!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]

Discussion
To be honest, this should be the first one to go. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about? <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 18:21, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Dont really bother with this page. Never like it from the start but dont really care whether it stay or not. To be fair, it might be short and last a few ep only, but at least it has a storyline which leads to another person getting eliminated, UNLIKE A CERTAIN EQUALLY SHORT PAGE THAT LOOKS BIG.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Duncan and Mike
Just like Duncan and Zoey below, it's short and eventually went nowhere. They also didn't have many one-on-one interactions. Its background importance may save it though.

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"
 * 1) Bit conflicting but I prefer to remove it. Gordon003
 * 2)  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 3) Less important than Duncan and Zoey. The two barely directly interact with Duncan only telling Zoey about Mike and Mal not even knowing about the whole past between them. I gotta support this.
 * 1) And I switched. Yeah, they barely interacted, and Duncan has an Everyone page where their interactions can be mentioned. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) I don't know why this exist, they barely interact at all. And when they do, its Mal and Duncan.  I can talk fluent Portuguese and Brazilian!  (Tyler?) 16:33, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose
03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) They had more interactions than Duncan and Zoey.  Wait,   What?  12:48, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, this one is supported by the fact that they know each other in the past.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 1) What Phoenix said.  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 2) It had importance to the plot and is supported by the fact they knew each other before TD. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Per above.
 * 1) This page may be short, but it was an important part of their plot line. Also, the fact that they knew one another before TD. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 14:42, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Duncan 99 New
 * 4)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Discussion
Page might be short but it has a rare trivia that isnt comparing in terms of apperance or competition related.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Duncan and Zoey
Many of us possibly wish it went somewhere. But it didn't. As TRRFan6 said, "The interactions they made are too useless. However, the trivia may save this page, because it's pretty long."

Support
03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) My reason is above.  Wait,   What?  12:48, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 3) Can be put in Duncan's page.
 * 1) ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"
 * 1) Personally, I like this page. I know it's too short though, so I may switch sides some day. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Sorry, I have to give this a no. They had a pretty rare friendship and both are part of the other's plot, with Zoey being the main person to notice Duncan's change in personality and Duncan had his thing with Mal.
 * 1) Little character development for Zoey (then again its her) and a little for Duncan. Got some storyline. Not really a fan though but as i always said, friendship pages are normally this short.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 3) TDAS interactions between first and second gen were generally brief, but this is actually one of the longer ones. Plus it had importance in Zoey's plot of taking a season to figure out Mal. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) That's short, true, but I like it. The interaction between Duncan and Zoey is nice. Duncan 99 New
 * 6)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Discussion
Friendship page are normally short, that's how it always work. What's more, it helps to imporve the boring girl's discovery in finding Mal a little, and to get Duncan a new interaction other than the Crazy girl In a Turkey suit.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Everyone and Dave
Many people wanted it gone last time. This is because his conflict with everyone was mostly with Beardo and Leonard, and it was just for the first two episodes. Later his interactions became mostly Sky, with a bit of Shawn and Ella.

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Kinda reluctant, but these reasons spoke to me. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) At first I thought to oppose this because people like Sugar, Chris, Beardo, and Leonard do worth a mention, but Sugar and Chris have their pages and with Beardo and Leonard it is pretty reptitive and the point is obvious.
 * 1) Good page? He barely talk to anyone outside his team.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2) I made this page, and I really regret my decision. It's pointless outside of Beardo and Leonard. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) He talked to Sky the most out of everyone. So why is this needed? ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Never really saw the point in this one. <font color="Green">So Long, <font color="Green">  <font color="Green"> Soggy McGee  04:35, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) No reason for this page, Dave didn't interact with enough people to have a "everyone" page --JamesQuentinMoore (talk) 19:03, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) It's a good page.  Wait,   What?  12:49, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 3)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 

Discussion

 * 1) Reason to removed this second horrible but "important and good page" :
 * 2) He only has a single major interaction. Two seconday interaction but one of them is quite short. And after that he barely talk to anyone from the opposing team other than Jasmine. Sugar's interaction with him is more of a Sugar vs Sky page.
 * 3) Most of the interaction on his page (other than Beardo, Chris and Leonard) that doesnt have a page on its own are quite minor eg (Max) or challenge-related eg (eg Twins and Topher) and he never talk to Rodney, Scarlett and Chef at all (the former is challenge related so doesnt really count as well)
 * 4) For an everyone conflict page, its short, which i said again and again, must be bigger than Everyone friendship pages
 * 5) The only good side, its still better than Everyone and Anne Maria  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Or Everyone and Staci, right? :P ArtDraw12

Everyone and Staci was created by Mughees to tease me. Everyone and Anne Maria was created for an actual page, approved by Ryan and ALMOST WIN a proposal due to bias and cheap reasons.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Someone get this page out of here already. Even if my primary target fail, this musnt.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 

Everyone and Eva
I know, Eva wouldn't have an interaction page. But so do many other contestants. Most of the interactions here are minor, or from No Pain, No Game.

I'll also quote Stryzzar here: "The reason I wanted Eva's Page gone was nearly every interaction was some variant of "scared by Eva's tantrum", "voted for her with everyone else." The only characters with something different were Heather, Bridgette, Noah, Izzy, and Justin. But it's still almost entirely restricted to 2 episodes, (or 3 for Team E-Scope)."

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Again, kinda reluctant here because of the fact she wouldn't have an interaction page. Then again, as I said, her interactions are too minor. I may actually switch to neutral some day. But hey, some of her interactions would still be mentioned on others' Everyone pages. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) There's hardly any interaction with Eva that's interesting. Gordon003
 * 3)  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 4) ArtDraw has already kindly copied over my reasoning, check above to see it. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 12:57, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Stry's reasoning convinced me for now, I may switch later though, I think Phoenix is gonna oppose this one (based on his comment on the thread).
 * 1) Unfortunately, as much as I like it, we can probably fit everything into her page.
 * 1) For the most part, it's just others being freaked out by her. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) GET RID OF IT. There is no point to it at all, and it is just horrid and pointless. I hate looking at it, and wondering what the point of it is. This should be deleted before anything else. <font color="Green">So Long, <font color="Green">  <font color="Green"> Soggy McGee  04:26, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) If Everyone and Cody didn't make it, then neither does this one deserve to. Noah has interacted with more contestants and if he hasn't amounted to recieving a page yet, neither should one-season wonder Eva. Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) Alot of character who had more screen time didn't get such a page I don't think she deserve one. JamesQuentinMoore (talk) 17:25, May 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Oppose

 * 1) It's an old page. It needs to stay.  Wait,   What?  12:50, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Eva won't have any interaction pages then.  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 

Discussion
Sorry but what does it matter she will be the only one with a page? I thought what matters for this proposal is if the page is important enough, and Stry's reasoning makes sense why to delete it. It's not our fault we didn't get enough material for that page. "Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"

Heather and Izzy
I have a feeling this became a page only because Izzy was BRIEFLY in an alliance with Heather in TDI. Just look at the page. Most of the info is "Heather is disturbed by Izzy's behaviour." And the interactions after TDI are even more minor. Plus, both have Everyone pages where the info can be mentioned.

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) As I explained above. I think it was added to late on the previous proposal, which is the only reason why it stated. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Wait, this existed?  Wait,   What?  12:49, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Other than the alliance, nothing interesting Gordon003
 * 4) Looking at the page, I guess it can be removed, but I except a long paragraph on each everyone page as they did have focus in some episodes (Sucky Outdoors, Wawanakwa Gone wild and more). I'm voting a bit reluctantly but no one has opposed it yet, so I'll count on everyone else's opinion for now.
 * 1) I gave my reasons before. At most it is the catalyst for Owen hating Heather.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 3) Most of their interactions is just Heather calling her "Psycho hose Beast", and even for those they're often indirect. Can be easily summed up on their everyone pages. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Barely ever talked. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) <font color="Green">So Long, <font color="Green">  <font color="Green"> Soggy McGee  04:33, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) I was actually neutral on this due to Izzy playing a role in the breakup of Gwen and Trent but we never even got to know how Izzy was recruited into the alliance. It couldn't have been an easy task, if Izzy's rejection of Chef's alliance is any indication. Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
Um, Izzy didn't even play a role in breaking up Gwen and Trent, Mughees. She pretty much only appeared with Heather and Lindsay in ep 15 when Eva entered the girls' cabin, and when Heather called an alliance meeting in ep 16. I've always wondered why Heather didn't suggest Izzy an alliance in The Big Sleep, and was happy once I saw her be a part of it, but truth be told, she didn't do anything! She was just the "sixth ranger" of the alliance. - ArtDraw12

The sixth ranger of a group less than 5 people. Ha Ha Ha. Its simply Heather calling Izzy crazy multiple times

Katie, Sadie, and Trent
Let's face it, Katie and Sadie's only important interaction page is with each other. This one is too irrelevant. And it's a multi-season page! Those pages shouldn't be too minor.

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream" 03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Yeah, as I said, too irrelevant. - ArtDraw12
 * 2) Useless and irrelevant. Wait,   What?  12:49, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Familly!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 4) I thought this would be a problem because none of them has an everyone page but the page is barely visited as Stry pointed out to me so (quoting from that thread) people at best would go to their character pages, especially Katie and Sadie because that was their main purpose in the aftermaths so I'm pretty sure it is focused there enough.
 * 1)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 2) Had no significance outside of 2 episodes of the TDA Aftermaths, and can be summed up on Katie and Sadie character pages. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Why was this a page anyways?
 * 1) Most of it is kinda forgettable. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) This has never actually influenced the plot, aside from when Katie and Sadie took Trent's side during the breakup but even then, that could've been done in their absence. Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Unlike Justin with these two idiots, Trent doesnt have an everyone page. Not a fan though.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2) This had some focus, and it does have some ties to their reaction to the Drama Brothers. I have to agree with Phoenix on this one. <font color="Green">So Long, <font color="Green">  <font color="Green"> Soggy McGee  04:31, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Support
03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Only important for one ep. Thats it. All others are either minor confrontations or talking bad about the other.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2)  Wait,   What?  16:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) "Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,   we'll skate your dream"  Ice Dancers Costumes.png
 * 4) See G+T's reasoning under DJ and Gwen. - ArtDraw12
 * 5) It was only relevant for a few episodes in TDI.  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 6) a thousand times yes
 * 1) Only relevant for Not Quite Famous and Brunch of Disgustingness. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) Can easily fit in their Everyone pages. <font color="Green">So Long, <font color="Green">  <font color="Green"> Soggy McGee  04:28, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) A large portion of this page is comprised of Bridgette showing dislike towards Heather during the aftermaths. The only other time they interacted was when Bridgette chose Gwen and Leshawna's side over hers. Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) For all reasons given above. This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]

Oppose

 * 1)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Support
"Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"
 * 1) Barely talk more than 5 minutes, not really important at all, and dont really have an episode focusing on them unlike Gwen with Geoff/Bridgette.  PhoenixDragonSamurai 
 * 2) It was important only in The Chefshank Redemption, where DJ was on Gwen's side no matter what. It was also a bit important in The Aftermath: II and maybe in Can't Help Falling in Louvre. But besides those episodes, this page isn't really necessary. Plus, both have Everyone pages. - ArtDraw12
 * 3) They had a few interactions, but I can't see that being the reason to create an interaction page for them.  Wait,   What?  16:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) The only reason I thought to oppose this one is because I like Gwen and something in me wants her to have more pages. But because we obviously should put opinions aside, I can't see why to oppose this.
 * 1)  This was just a dress rehearsal, my darlings!   You'll see my star on the Walk of Fame!   Mark my words! MARK EM! 
 * 2) I think I suggested this page last time, but it was strongly opposed. But it's still a very insignificant interaction. I barely remember them talking outside Aftermaths. --<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> "In my mind, I'm always running from zombies,  <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000, 0 0 2.0em #008000"> and if you're not,    YOU'RE CRAZY!!! " [[Image:Go for the neck.png|140px]] 02:53, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Why is this a page again? ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink, 0 0 0.9em deeppink">NThree   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">What are you talking about?   <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 0.9em black, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green, 0 0 0.9em green">See for yourself. Uhh, seriously? 03:40, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) DJ barely has strong interactions, and this is just another weak one to add to his generally weak interactions. <font color="Green">So Long, <font color="Green">  <font color="Green"> Soggy McGee  04:27, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Other than the tiebreaker and DJ choosing Gwen's side in Chefshank Redemption, their total interactions amount to three minutes tops. Mughees J. Simpson (talk) 09:24, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) For all reasons given above. This is hard to admit, but I really wanna meet Sugar's Family!  [[Image:Shawntells.jpg|100px]]
 * 7)  How cool would that be if I had gills? I really should've been born with gills.  Life can be so unfair! 

Oppose
03:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) I believe this is a stronger interaction page for Gwen and DJ.

Discussion
We can't remove any page, that will make the goal of having 666 pages on the wiki further than now (Note: Do NOT make this comment effect your judgement, this was just for laughs).

PS. I just noticed how many pages about Duncan are in this "Give us beads, sparkles and a theme,  we'll skate your dream"

FYI, most of the people who are keeping a page, their only reason is like this page is important or it is a good page

 PhoenixDragonSamurai