User blog comment:ForeverAloneTV/TD Character Review-Rant - Noah/@comment-5221692-20151224071455/@comment-5221692-20151225030349

@EpicDestroyer. Thanks for backing up your opinions and stuff. :) Gives me more to work with. :D Thank you!

Personally, I can't say much else at this point except that this season dealt with a multitude of characters that didn't have the time to go as in depth character-wise as the previous seasons did. (But then again, when has Total Drama ever gone in depth with characters? Island was the first season, so the "development" was really just us getting to know the characters. And most of the character's "development" was just "solved" by ending up in relationships)

Noah's treatment of Owen was to show the paralells between his treatment of Owen and Emma's treatment of Kitty. Both are dismissive and outwardly annoyed by their partners. This created some kind of common ground for Noah and Emma to be on before the relationship came into play. In the end, they both had to work through those issues.

My personal favorite episode of Ridonculous was "I Love Ridonc N' Roll" because it highlighted the most of Noah and Owen's powerful dynamic. (And it had the Goths amazing story, it was my favorite challenge, and I loved seeing the Twins finally go down) This episode captured their friendship at its finest. I see where you're coming from in the idea that Noah and Owen should have had more focus this season as a team. And it's weird to say it, but... this season NEEDED more OWEN. I totally get that. I just choose not to direct my dissapointment of that onto Noah.

I never really thought of any Owen Noah moments in the first third of Ridonculous as directly MEAN. Owen is a ridiculous guy who does ridiculous things. Owen himself has proven to be one of Total Drama's most iconic gag characters. Noah merely highlights that with his contrasting character and his reactions to Owen's ... well, everything. Personally, I don't understand why Noah's paris drawing or the newspaper bit should warrant any karma, if not anything other than a slap on the wrist. I figured the penalty that episode served as enough karma for BOTH of them and their antics that episode. Noah hit Owen with a newspaper. Owen ate their cheese wheel. Noah slipping on Owen's sweat... is that good enough karma?

 No offense, but it sounds like you're upset because you had specific expectations for Noah's story arc that didn't go in the direction you wanted. If we're gonna get REALLY nitpicky, then I'd say Owen's relevance was how him and Izzy both hassled Noah a lot on TDWT. In TDRR, the paralell is Noah and Emma turning into a hassle for Owen. From what I observed, most of Owen's significance in TDRR is to act as a parallel to many things Noah does. Noah treats Owen similar to how Emma treats Kitty. Noah is annoyed by Owen similar to how Emma is annoyed by Kitty... The Reality TV Pros primary purpose in TDRR was to focus on Noah and Noah only. And frankly, I can easily forgive this season for sidelining Owen focus wise. I mean, when has Owen EVER been sidelined in favor of another character that wasn't Duncan, Heather or Courtney?

 Honestly tho, I Love Ridonc N' Roll. What a great episode. :D

I'm not understanding exactly which part he becomes a stale monotonous mess. I can see why he'd be wasted potential in your books, but I don't see the stale monotonous part. Like I said, I can forgive that Emma is all Noah's focus for the season, since Owen's been given ALL the focus in the past. Owen's a supporting role, and he did a fine job with that.

I don't think Noah and Owen's friendship needs a huge story arc to make them anything other than what they are. They both took turns flopping this season as Owen mostly did in TDWT. They joke around, and Noah got predominantly annoyed in TDWT. This time around, the joking and the support of one another is still there, but Owen takes turns being TDWT Noah. That was fun to watch. Overall, I disagree on Noah being "harsher" in this season on Owen than he was last season. Noah's always been a little harsh, but to be absolutely fair, Noah's rarely soft, and has NEVER been soft prior to RR. His palling around and snarkiness towards Owen is just Noah's way of being endearing, or Noah's best attempt at being openly friendly. I may be looking into this too much, but I never saw a reason for their FRIENDSHIP to develop. It's sweet, and it's goofy, and both have an unspoken devotion to one another. Individually, sure they can use work. But as a duo, I think they're great as they are the entire season through.

And about the Owen eye thing with the komodo dragon, well... Owen's idea WAS ridiculous. I'm not saying Owen DESERVED it... but he waltzed into one heck of a tight situation that would be REALLY hard for Noah to get him out of.

I'm sorry it was uncomfortable for you, the whole Nemma thing in those episodes. Again, I think that's just opinion and personal aesthetic. In my own opinion, I kinda just adjusted to TD's ideal sense of "romance". While it's WAY off from what it should be, I think the show did a good job at keeping it sincere, and in a way, highlighting what Owen and Kitty see. You were uncomfortable? So were Kitty and Owen. I think the discomforting aspects of it were completely intentional so that we'd KNOW they're distracted from the game.

Overall, you make a lot of great points! I think you're absolutely right on how the cringiness of their relationship outweighs the sincere moments. I think they could have done better on that too. I also wish they focused more on Noah and Owen as a team, and maybe stuck with Noah's claim to move on at the end of I Love Ridonc N' Roll. That could have made their story last longer and had more significance.

But those reasons aren't enough for me to think of Noah in any sort of negative light. I still think he made it through the season okay. :)

TL;DR: I confessed my love to Epic Destroyer and asked them to marry me.

What I actually said TL;DR: I agree there were faults this season and things could have been polished better, but I see more positive, consistent aspects than I do negative ones and therefore still like Noah.